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Old 12-03-2007, 04:45 PM
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Barn find...with a catch

in a barn just above my house is an old Vega...not the coolest car ever but still kinda interesting in its own way, maybe with a v8 swap. the car, which is in great shape, very little rust, from what we can tell was given to a friend of mine on the condition that he get it out of the barn...heres where the catch comes in. it has fallen through floor . i walked into this barn tonight flash light in hand thinking...where is it. well, as i walked to the back i saw 2 headlights poking up above the floor...and the rest of the car behind them at a pretty severe angle. the entire floor under the car has collapsed but remained in one piece. the floor around what has fallen in is strewn with junk but appears to be solid. so the plan is to get a chain hoist, sling it over a main beam, lift the front up and get some planks under it, then drag it out, either with a tractor or the winch we have on the trailer (i cast my vote for the winch but its his decision). I don't have any pictures because it was dark and i didn't bother bringing the camera, but i'm certainly going to get some. what do you guys think, worth the effort for a Vega? I'll try to get pictures soon.

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Old 12-03-2007, 04:49 PM
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sure! its worth it for the adventure alone!
just be careful. It's all fun-n-games till somebody losses an eye.
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Old 12-03-2007, 05:13 PM
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barn find...with a catch

Yeah... I'd drag it out! Factory v-8 mounts, pan&oil pump, some headers and your ready to go. If you want to get tricky...Maverick rear with two pf the short axles....great little (whisper) street racer err rocket

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Had a '72 vega GT back in the day. Perfect car for a V-8. DEFINITELY beef up the drive line. See if it's got that useless hatchback, perfect area for tubbing for some nice fatties!!
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Old 12-03-2007, 06:29 PM
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I like the way you think 79C10, just doing it will be fun. great story to tell when I'm done. As long as it dosen't start..."guess how i lost this finger".

on that note, not to worry. even though I'm just a young buck...i've spent a few year dragging logs out of the woods with a cable Skidder (basicly an articulated tractor with 12 ton winch), working on and operating all manor of heavy equipment, throwing pipe around on a drilling rig and all sorts of dangerous activities that have taught me just how important it is too keep safety your number one priority.
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Make sure you have a camera on hand when you pull it out. Mainly so we can see....but they may also need it for the inquest....................
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A friend of mine was building a '74 427 chevy powered Vega..Full tube frame and roll cage, tubbed , 4 link, strut front end, all aluminum floorpan and wanted it to be street legal...Well it wasn't smog exempt up untill a few years ago, and in that time he lost interest and parked it somewhere.

Another friend of mine owned Reggie Jackson's pro-stock Vega for a while. That one was cool, at the time Byron owned it, it had a 454 and narrowed dana70 rear end, all tubbed and tube frame.

I can't find any pics of that car on the 'net. it was yellow and had the "Reggiebar" logo on it's door.


There are a few companies making v-8 conversion kits for those veg-a matics...IIRC you don't have to do much to the sheetmetal or front ends to fit one in...

I drove a stock 74 wagon around for a while....what a giant POS, IIRC the motors in them were prone to crack either the heads or block..I can't remember which.

Watch out you guys don't pull the barn down on top of you.

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Good luck on the extraction.

Here's something to consider for a decent running street car that would still get good mileage, how about a 3.4 or 3.8 V-6 and trans out of a mid to late 90's Camaro? Light weight, easy to find and relatively cheap in the wrecking yards, easy to get parts for, decent aftermarket for both motors if you wanted to breathe on them a little bit, easy 14 second 1/4's and MPG in the upper 20's and DEFINITELY different, plus it would handle a whole lot better than a V-8. A friend of mine has a mid 90's Camaro with a 3.4 auto that he let his girlfriend run at the strip, bone stock it ran 16.0's. Not fast but not bad all things considered, some of the so called musclecars back in the day were only in the mid-15's stock. A Vega is a few hundred pounds lighter, put a free flowing exhaust on it, cold air induction, a chip, different injectors, etc. and 13's are not out of the question.......... OR how about a turbo or blower?
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I drove a stock 74 wagon around for a while....what a giant POS, IIRC the motors in them were prone to crack either the heads or block..I can't remember which.

Watch out you guys don't pull the barn down on top of you.

Have fun.

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What they were prone to was...........the iron cylinders would drop down into the aluminum block, causing the head not to seal properly......I remember fixing my sisters by taking a huge bastard file across the top of the block to even them up....worked for a while.
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Early or late Vega? I don't remember the split but the early ones are really cool looking, like a split nose Camero's little brother. Later ones with that cheese grater grille are not so cool looking.
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Wasn't there also an issue of using some type from Silicone in the bores and the overheating would cause the bores to score (from the Silicone seperating from the parent Metal)?

I've always wanted a Big Block Vega-had a friend who had a 427 in a Vega Wagon-it sure did move-
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Drop a cummins 4bt in it
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Maybe it has a Cosworth DOHC in it. That would be a good barn find.
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Wasn't there also an issue of using some type from Silicone in the bores and the overheating would cause the bores to score (from the Silicone seperating from the parent Metal)?
My sister had one that gave up the ghost and I remember my old man saying thats what happened. I thought I was a cool car and want to keep it for myself, but I was only about 10 at the time.
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The Vega engine had aluminum cylinders that were embedded with silicone. The cylinders were free floating at the deck/head juncture and were attached to the block at the bottom only. When the engine overheated the cylinders dropped enough to blow a head gasket. I was a Chevy dealership general mechanic from 1973 to about 1976. Chevy extended the warranty on the Vega because of the engine problems. People were literally dragging the Vegas in that had been sitting in their back yards. Chevy paid about 9 hours to install a fitted block ( bare block with pistons). I did so many of them I was literally dreaming about doing them in my sleep. It got so bad I quit and went to work at the local Ford dealership.

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