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Old 05-22-2005, 04:48 AM
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Basic Painting Questions.

I need help with mixing the proper amounts of paint, Hardener and Reducer.
I have the following supplies:

PPG Delstar DAR5954 Tangerine prlct
PPG Delstar DAR901477 Blade Silver Met
PPG Delstar DTR601 Acrylic Enamel Reducer
ProForm PF 599 "Wet Look" Acrylic Enamel Hardener

I want to spray using a few coats of the silver, then spray the Tangerine on top of the silver to let the silver shine through.

What percentage of each material do I use and at what stage?
I need to know the amount of Reducer and Hardener I mix with the paint. I am painting a friends motorcycle and it has been a very long time since I have painted. I used to paint aircraft which is very different then automotive. I am afraid that I will screw it up because I do not know how to mix it and can not find the info anywhere after a few days of searching.

I would also like to know what PSI is best for a HVLP gun, what the best temperature is for my paint booth while spraying and how long I should wait between coats.

Any help with any of the above questions or anything else I did not mention but should have would be great!

Thx Randall

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After some recent experience here is a few things I picked up. Before you start get the material data sheets for the products you are using. You should be able to get these on line from the mfg. This will tell you what the mix ratio is for the products you are using. If any doubts call their tech line and ask some questions about using what you have. Trust me it will be worth a few minutes on the phone. The reducer and hardener are the temp driven components in the process...again verify with the mfg tech support. Your hvlp gun probably has a 10 PSI cap, set the psi at the base of the gun at 45-50 psi on the gauge. Do a practice panel to get you fan and technique down.

SAFETY is your major concern. Do not breath the vapors when you are mixing or spraying. Do not get the paint on your skin. I used a fresh air respirator and painters suit & latex gloves. If you do not have the appropriate safety gear DO NOT spray automotive paint.

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An acrylic enamel candy is what you're trying to do here. Is your tangerine a transparent color? If it isn't transparent the silver will not shine through. Your best bet would be to spray a test panel. Get your silver on then see how many coats of tangerine need to be applied for the desired effect. You're probably going to want to let the silver dry overnight before applying the orange or it may move the metalics around. This is going to be a tough deal to spray IMO, I'm sure you'd be much better off with a urethane setup. You could use SPI's clear over the top, Barry can clue you in on proper proceedure and product selection. Bob
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Go to this page select North America when the next page opens select product information (at the top of the page), and then select paint lines, then Delstar. When the next page opens select topcoat and hit submit. You will then see the available product sheets. Select the "P" sheet for your paint (DAR - Polyurethane Acrylic Enamel). Read the "P" sheet carefully and follow the directions exactly as written for best results.
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An acrylic enamel candy is what you're trying to do here. Is your tangerine a transparent color? If it isn't transparent the silver will not shine through. Your best bet would be to spray a test panel. Get your silver on then see how many coats of tangerine need to be applied for the desired effect. You're probably going to want to let the silver dry overnight before applying the orange or it may move the metalics around. This is going to be a tough deal to spray IMO, I'm sure you'd be much better off with a urethane setup. You could use SPI's clear over the top, Barry can clue you in on proper proceedure and product selection. Bob
Thats exactly what I was thinking about..........Although you could "thin out" the acrylic tangerine pearl with acrylic clear making it "simi-transperant"

But yes, a urethane system would be best for this kind of job........

In eather way, you will want to lay down a clear coat down to be able to cut and buff with out damaging the tangerine pearl coat.

Solid color single stages cut and buff nicely, but metalics and pearls tend to "blotch" after sanding.
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Thank you for all your help! I am going to use the PPG color guides that are on the website.
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