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Old 07-17-2009, 11:08 PM
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"Basics of Basics" Wheel Stands vs Jack stands.

“Basics of Basics” Wheel stands vs Jack stands
By Brian Martin



With all the talk on putting cars on jack stands while working on them I thought I would give you guys the plans to make your own "Wheel stands" that are used in the autobody industry. Factory made ones can be bought from Chief equipment company part number 674507 for about $350.00.


Can you hang a quarter with the car on jack stands and have it turn out ok, sure you can. But I have to tell you, having a car sitting on anything but it’s wheels while replacing panels is right out of autobody 101. It is a huge no-no, period. And there are a lot of guys out there with horror stories to prove why it is a no-no. Heck, using a floor jack under the frame right at the cowl is exactly how you can pull a wide fender gap at the bottom of a door together! Honestly, if you have a wide gap from fender to door at the bottom, put a floor jack under the frame right there and lift up, the gap will close! If the frame flexes that easy, why would we want to put the car up on jack stands when aligning panels?

If you put the jack stands under the rear axle and under the control arms, yeah that gets pretty close to how the car’s weight is distributed while on the wheels. But if you put them on the rails at any point, you are NOT getting the same weight distribution.

On my 1965 A body convertible when the car is on jack stands under the cowl, the doors hardly open! And this is a boxed convertible frame. It is just another one of those things like sandblasting sheetmetal, sure it “can” be done, but why take the chance?

Or you can make ones like I have used for years.





These are home made from 2" by 1/4" thick angle iron. We have a pair of them sliding on the top of the frame rack while a pull is being made with a full sized truck on them! We have used them both on one side of the vehicle or both in the front or the rear. I know they look kinda scary the first time you see them. But they WORK, and I have never seen ANYTHING happen while using these tool.

Here are the plans for making them.



A few hours one after noon and you will have a couple made. You could of course add the little “legs” the factory ones have. But it goes to show you, you don’t even need them.

Brian

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Old 07-17-2009, 11:18 PM
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Brian...Thanks for sharing this with us.. I can see where I would sure ''NEED'' a set for my shop....
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i have 4 old 10 in mags i use to set the tire in. gets the car up high and 0 chance of it falling.
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i have 4 old 10 in mags i use to set the tire in. gets the car up high and 0 chance of it falling.
That is a hell of an idea Shine! How about a set of "wagon wheel spares" with the tires pulled off. They are tall and narrow to stay out of the way. Weld a bolt on each side so they can't roll would be a good idea too.

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i just set the tire in it.
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LOLOL, I thought you meant put them ON the car! LOLOL


THAT'S why you used the 10". LOL

I was thinking you put them ON the car with no tire. That way you could work around the fender bolts and stuff without a tire in the way.

But think about it, you COULD make "stands" sort of like I have by welding some wagon wheel spare rims onto your 10" rims! Of course it would only work on cars with that bolt pattern, but hey, it's an idea.

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This is why Hotrodders is one of the only forums i actually read. I wanna make me some! Thanks Brian.
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Thanks Brian, I will make me a set of those also. Cole
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