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Old 05-03-2012, 06:47 PM
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Having previously bought a Harbor Freight Auto Dark Helmet, I'm now using it for a flower pot. Go to a welding supply and buy a decent helmet. Your welding will be better.
I agree, I bought this one from Harbor Freight and I hated it. So I bought a Miller Elite, there's no comparison in the quality. I couldn't see worth a damn with the Harbor Freight helmet.

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buy a gas welder 140. I got the hobart handler 140 and it's a great welder for a good price. I just bought one and practiced. It requires practice to get the hang of it. Watch videos on youtube and hit the garage.
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If you use reading glasses you can buy a magnifier lens that fits inside your helmet. a lot easier than using glasses under your helmet. and sometimes a spot light aimed at your work helps .
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I agree, I bought this one from Harbor Freight and I hated it. So I bought a Miller Elite, there's no comparison in the quality. I couldn't see worth a damn with the Harbor Freight helmet.
i bought the same helmet for $39 last week. it replaced a 10 yr old, hard used, identical helmet that the head band broke on. best price i could find for the miller elite was $270. probably has the same auto-dim lens assembly as the harbor freight helmet
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:27 AM
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i bought the same helmet for $39 last week. it replaced a 10 yr old, hard used, identical helmet that the head band broke on. best price i could find for the miller elite was $270. probably has the same auto-dim lens assembly as the harbor freight helmet
I paid about $150 for my Miller and believe me they are NOT using the same face unit as harbor Fright. For the first time in years I could actually see the work line. The HF helmet was my first and I didn't know any better. Try to use both and you'll see a big difference.
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My experience parallels Boothboy's, I just couldn't see the joint well enough to make a good weld with the Harbor Freight helmet. With the Miller Elite I can see a lot better. I don't remember for sure what I paid for my Elite but I think it was around $180 (I've had it for several years). I do have magnifiers for my helmet, had 'em in the Harbor Freight helmet too. When I tried the HF helmet I thought maybe it was just the lighting, the welding smoke, etc. that was causing the problem so I grabbed one of my old non-darkening helmets and could see fine with it. That's when I made the decision to bite the bullet and get the Elite. Maybe Boothboy and I should have exchanged our helmets at HF, we might have gotten defective ones, I don't know. I've seen a lot of posts where guys have been satisfied with the Harbor Freight helmet but the one I got just wouldn't work for me.
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Reading back thru this thread I noticed this from Ogre:

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.....i use the weldpac100 version of that welder to do everything
the weldpac is flux core only, regardless of what people say flux core is a good welding process
oem uses mostly flux core for welding on rear ends, shock bracket, spring pad, backing plate flange and caliper mounts are all welded with flux core.
I'm not sure if Ogre was referring to my post or not, but I will say I did not mean to infer that flux core welding is not a good process. It is a good process and has a lot of uses. But FishSticks stated that
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It needs to be something that can handle both thin gauge and thick material.
For thin sheet metal, like auto body work, I believe mig works better than flux core. Flux core is great for working outside or where you have breeze where you're welding, as it doesn't take much breeze to blow your shielding gas away. Flux core also burns hotter, so it extends the range of thicknesses that the small welders can weld. The weld setting charts from the welders all give recommended settings that are for thicker material with the flux core than with hard wire and shielding gas. Since a mig welder can also do flux core but a flux core welder can't do mig, I think a mig is a more versatile machine. But yes, flux core IS a viable process and is very useful. It all depends on the application. I'm sorry if I gave the impression otherwise.

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not aimed at you, just when i mention flux core welding there's usually someone that says flux core won't and flux core can't.
same people jump on the 110v can't and 110v won't band wagon.
both groups usually can't and shouldn't be welding

i was just saying not to overlook the capabilities of that 110v mig at home depot.
i would have bought that one if i was in the market, i bought mine 10 yrs ago, the cheapest mig i found was over $500

while i do agree that mig is easier than flux core, most of my truk was fabricated with fc
i sectioned a 90 newyorker trunk lid and all fabrication on the bed all with fc

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Flux core or MIG ??

Flux core welding will do a decent job,if you dont mind craters in your welds.MIG makes a very nice looking weld (im assuming )that you know how to weld.On the 110V to 220 V,the 110 is a good machine,BUT,you really cant weld (example only) 1/4 inch metal UNLESS you PRE -HEAT the weld joint,thats ALL a welder does,is heat the joint,so the welding rod,or wire,can fill the joint.a 220,on the other hand,can weld thicker metal than the 110V,you can always turn the 220V machine down,for thin metals (body work for example)but,you cant turn the 110 V up higher to weld thicker metals.
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Ogre, I have to say............WOW! That is VERY impressive work on your truck!
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Thanks big ed, it was a labor of lust.
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Yes a 110 v welder will weld 1/4" if you know how to weld
No it won't do it in one pass
Any welder in the wrong hands won't weld 1/8" right.
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