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Question BBC in to a 1980 Camaro

Hello,I'm new to this forum but I got the same kind of project(big block in an
80 camaro) going on. I was told I can use my small block engine mount ears on the 454, then the big block will bolt right on to the small block frame motor mounts,setting the engine low enough to clear all obstacles in the engine compartment,is this true and can the small block motor mounts(rubber,stock)"clamshells" take the power of the big block or can I get polyurethane racing small block mounts and get away with them on the big block installation? any tech help on this would be appreciated.

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look at the date of this thread. died 9 years ago
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You're also hijacking that thread, start one of your own and go from square one, you'll get much better replies. Also try the search function here for more information.

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Hello,I'm new to this forum but I got the same kind of project(big block in an
80 camaro) going on. I was told I can use my small block engine mount ears on the 454, then the big block will bolt right on to the small block frame motor mounts,setting the engine low enough to clear all obstacles in the engine compartment,is this true and can the small block motor mounts(rubber,stock)"clamshells" take the power of the big block or can I get polyurethane racing small block mounts and get away with them on the big block installation? any tech help on this would be appreciated.
I had a BBC in my '81 Camaro (one of more than a dozen engines I had in it), and it fit w/o ANY issues. I had a manual steering box, but otherwise, you'll have no problems w/it fitting.

FWIW, I used STOCK 6 cylinder front springs, absolutely no problem w/front end steering/geometry/clearance, etc. Headers did not drag- nothing. If your front springs are in good condition you do not need to change anything.

Go for it, I say!
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big block in a 81 camaro

You will need these frame mounts to make it easier to install the engine. Buy Chevy BB - LH/RH Set at Classic Muscle.com. These motor mounts will also be needed. Buy Chevy BB (bolts to block) at Classic Muscle.com. Be sure to order two of the motor mounts.
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Unless I'm missing something, how is putting a BBC in an 81 Camaro any different than the factory installed BBC in a 1970 Camaro?
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Unless I'm missing something, how is putting a BBC in an 81 Camaro any different than the factory installed BBC in a 1970 Camaro?
easy.. the facory used mounts/engine brackets that move the engine to the pass side.. something the small block mounts don't..
and thats why the headers don't clear.. and valve cover clearence is tighter than with the correct mounts..
but other than that it be the same as a 70.. if a 70 bbc came with air.. then that box shouldn't be an issue with factory valve covers all bets are off with taller than stock..

those that say you can use 6cyl or the small block springs.. must only go in a straight line.. if you want any chance of it not plowing at low speeds add the correct springs.. they are cheap..
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easy.. the facory used mounts/engine brackets that move the engine to the pass side.. something the small block mounts don't..
and thats why the headers don't clear.. and valve cover clearence is tighter than with the correct mounts..
but other than that it be the same as a 70.. if a 70 bbc came with air.. then that box shouldn't be an issue with factory valve covers all bets are off with taller than stock..
That was exactly my point. The factory already engineered this. It obviously bolts in. Just get the factory mounts.
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easy.. the facory used mounts/engine brackets that move the engine to the pass side.. something the small block mounts don't..
and thats why the headers don't clear.. and valve cover clearence is tighter than with the correct mounts..
but other than that it be the same as a 70.. if a 70 bbc came with air.. then that box shouldn't be an issue with factory valve covers all bets are off with taller than stock..

those that say you can use 6cyl or the small block springs.. must only go in a straight line.. if you want any chance of it not plowing at low speeds add the correct springs.. they are cheap..
Obviously you have never actually done this. I have. No "plowing" (understeer), front bar was the factory '81 Camaro 6 cylinder part, rear bar was from a '79 WS6 T/A. Handled sweet. And I ran the pure hell outta that car.
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Obviously you have never actually done this. I have. No "plowing" (understeer), front bar was the factory '81 Camaro 6 cylinder part, rear bar was from a '79 WS6 T/A. Handled sweet. And I ran the pure hell outta that car.
There's a lot of truth in this post. GM cars of that vintage historically understeer in stock form. Rough rule of thumb for handling is that the stiffer end of the car breaks away first, so installing a larger front bar INCREASES understeer (ignoring for the moment any camber change benefits that come from less roll with the larger bar). Keeping the smaller front bar and installing a fairly large rear bar will make the car much more neutral. Herb Adams would always run a larger rear bar than front bar on these cars.
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Aha- someone who "gets it".
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Great discussion on an old thread brought back to life. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiance on this, saved me a lot of time and dough.
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