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Old 08-23-2006, 07:07 AM
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Beginner request Paint Brand recommendation...

It might be presumptious for me to order PPG or one of the other Gold label brands, seeing how this is going to be my first job. I'm just trying to achieve good basics and concentrate on spray gun tuning , minimum of runs, and a minimum of preparation errors.
Can anyone recommend a good middle of the road brand of paint that shoots well? Can you also please list a location where I can get it, possibly on the Net?
This paint job isnt headed for any museum, except for maybe Ripley's Believe it or not Museum.
I was thinking of trying Kirkers.

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Old 08-23-2006, 08:00 AM
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Most paint these days is fine to shoot. Kirker does not make
just base coat but only SS. I would think their paint would be fine
for what you want to achieve.

As I indicated to you on another board, if you are trying to achieve a match
to an existing finish your far better off paying a visit to your local jobber
or paint shop.

If you just want to practice then consider getting some flat or satin
black trim paint and shoot some of the trim on the car first. That will
give you an idea on what to expect for a larger job.

I know kirker just reciently introduced a black satin flat paint. That should
be fine for trim, engine bay etc. You could give that a shot and see how it goes.

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Old 08-23-2006, 08:01 AM
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What paint brands are sold near you? Check out the phone book under "Automotive paint" in the yellow pages. If you have a hard time finding it, go ask a body shop where they get their supplies.

Getting it over the net is ok if you really know what you are doing, but I REALLY think you should have a place you can walk into and grab something when you need it.

First off, when you decide, and let me tell you, most every single brand will do basically the same thing. You want to get a pint of paint and go home and spray it out, get a feel of all this stuff before you set out to paint a car.

That bodyshop you ask, ask them for a fender or two that they are throwing away. Most collision shops are going to have a metal bin or at the very least a garbage bin with fenders and doors and what not in it that they have taken off cars. Some of these parts will have very little damage AND very nice paint on them. The perfect thing to scuff up and do some practice painting on.

Plus, at the paint store or the shop there is going to be miss matched colors that the store will sell you for next to nothing and the body shop (if you befriend them) will give you for nothing.

Believe me, to a newbe, there is not going to be a difference between brands, there just isn't. It would be like picking up all the bats in the dugout of a pro ball team. You couldn't even tell them apart for goodness sakes. But the pro who uses them everyday would probably tell you within an ounce the difference.

It takes time to make a difference to you, just get SOMETHING and SHOOT IT for goodness sakes.

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PPG has a cheaper line of paints called Omni.
I've used it before and it's not bad.

Dupont also has a cheaper line called Nason.

Good paint for a beater.

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Old 08-24-2006, 06:04 AM
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I would check out www.southernpolyurethanes.com they have the best quality primers, clears and some base colors at affordable prices. If nothing else read Barry's "the perfect paint job" and "paint gun adjusting".
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I'd say go for the top shelf products right from day one, they are top shelf because they are user friendly...

Check out this DIY step by painstaking step if you get a chance,,, an amazing success story from a first timer and PPG
http://www.a2zautoforums.com/showthr...5&page=1&pp=20
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Kirker? did someone say Kirker? (LOL)

All the major brands make good stuff, but consider who you buy from.
I bought some paint once from a discount store and when I had problems
all I got was "that's too bad".
I buy all my base paint for collision repair from DuPont now,
but the main reason I stick with DuPont is I have a jobber that helps me.
Like last week I got a qt of base for a Camry and it didn't match,
he mixed a new one that did match and gave it to me-FREE!!!!
That was a $68.00 quart.
So who you buy from is important and when you have a problem, the
man behind the counter can be your best friend.
Some are clueless about paint but some know what they're doing and
if you find one, stick with him.
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I have a Global system and a pro-spray system that I can mix from, Right now i'm running down all the Global and switching to pro-spray. Used omni a long time, thing I didn't like about that was that I had Die-back issues over time.
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