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Old 01-10-2010, 08:31 AM
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Best 4 Speed in 67 Camaro

hello, i have a 67 camaro with a mild 350. I had a Saginaw 4 speed back in the day and it was always goin out on me (syncros etc) . i just started on the car agian because its been sittin for awhile and i dont know if i want to rebuild the trans. and have the same trouble agian or not. would a muncie or borg warner be alot better for my camaro. also what would a trans shop cost to have this saginaw fully rebuilt? thanks alot for the help

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hello, i have a 67 camaro with a mild 350. I had a Saginaw 4 speed back in the day and it was always goin out on me (syncros etc) . i just started on the car agian because its been sittin for awhile and i dont know if i want to rebuild the trans. and have the same trouble agian or not. would a muncie or borg warner be alot better for my camaro. also what would a trans shop cost to have this saginaw fully rebuilt? thanks alot for the help
Find you a Muncie M21 Or a Borg Warner super T-10. Or you can go with something from Keisler. http://www.keislerauto.com/vmchk/gm/...-products.html .

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The TKO600/Kiesler trans is expensive, but worth it, IMHO. I did one a while back in a Pro Topline aluminum headed, roller cammed LS6 powered Corvette, along with a hydraulic clutch release system, and it made that thing one SWEET car to drive. Another cheaper idea would be to find and adapt a T56. Either way, having OD will make a HUGE difference in drive-ability.
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The TKO600/Kiesler trans is expensive, but worth it, IMHO. I did one a while back in a Pro Topline aluminum headed, roller cammed LS6 powered Corvette, along with a hydraulic clutch release system, and it made that thing one SWEET car to drive. Another cheaper idea would be to find and adapt a T56. Either way, having OD will make a HUGE difference in drive-ability.
Yes they are Rick , I priced one for my 67 still might do it yet
But it was over 4 grand i can't find the quote they sent me. The price was me taking them my car and driving it back or haul it which ever and i don't even have to touch it. Thing is i like doing my own work so if i do end up going this route i will do it my self. Save the labor anyway.
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I think the one we did in the Vette was about $3500 delivered in a crate. The customer bought their blowproof alloy bellhousing as well, $500 , but it was BEAUTIFUL and light weight. Between the heads, BeCool Radiator, fan setup, aluminum water pump, aluminum flywheel, dual disc clutch, and the bellhousing, I think we've it got down to about small block weight. I hope to finish that car up one of these days, the next project on it is big brakes, and he's talking about titanium rotors,
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Just to throw this out there; you might want to think about using the Chevrolet/GMC truck, MOPAR produced, A-833 New Process trans. GM bellhousing bolt pattern, manual 3 speed with 4th being a manual overdrive. Uses a Hurst shifter. They retooled the MOPAR 4 speed manual into an overdrive trans. Sort of the best of both worlds, a strong trans, that helps with gas milage.
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I have a TKO in my 59 Elky-----love it
I have a Keisler TKO in the 66 Elky (perfect fit), still putting that car together.

Have the 833OD in my Dodge D-150----is also a nice trans.
Feels like it is about as bullet proof as the 833 trannys that I had
in my Chrys 300, 69 GTX, and 68 RR

1st gear in the TKO trannies pretty low----3.27 & 2.91
OD ratios are .68 .64, and I think there is a .82 out there available.

Have no clue to the ratios in the 833---this is my Daily Driver ol' Stodgy Dodgy
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