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Old 04-15-2011, 07:38 PM
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Budget around 10k
10 K will not even get you a GOOD frame and engine for a 32/33 Ford ( Model A either )

You need to really figure what you are going to try and build because there is a TON of money difference in a Model A / 1932 Ford /1933 Ford.







Each one represents a different generation of Ford development. Each has it's own vastly different build challenges.

Each one has a different wheelbase ... so the underhood room is also different.

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I understand the Ford in a Ford mentality ... but ... the 351 is larger and more difficult to install ... than the 289/302. One reason the Chevrolet is used so much in a early Ford ... is that the 265/283/302/305/307/327/350 and 400 all are the same external size. A 400 Chevrolet is easier to install than a 351 C or 351 W ... with 50 more cubic inches.

The Chevrolet also has a aftermarket water pump that raises the fan centerline 5 and 1/2 inches ... so that you do not have to use a electric fan.



All of these things factor in to the fact that most of the early Fords have a SBC under the hood.

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10k was on enigne alone sorry for not clarifying
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10k was on enigne alone sorry for not clarifying


If you do not have a lot of Ford engine pieces laying around ...
I would suggest a crate engine from Ford Racing.



347 cubic inches from a 302 based block. 450 Horsepower

for $7999.00

347 cubic inches
450 hp @ 6000 rpm (with headers, and a 650 CFM Holley carburetor not included)
400 lb.-ft. @ 4900 rpm
9.7:1 Compression ratio (nominal)
Forged pistons
Forged steel cap screw connecting rods
Hydraulic roller camshaft, .580" lift intake .602" exhaust, duration at .050" is 232 degrees intake and 240 degrees exhaust
Double roller timing chain M-6268-A302
Forged steel crankshaft
Boss 4-bolt main block M-6010-BOSS302
High-performance rear T-sump oil pan
Rear sump pan fits most Fox body cars
MSD billet distributor
Ford Racing aluminum "Z" cylinder heads M-6049-Z304DA with 2.02" intake valves and 1.60" exhaust valves
Roller rocker arms
Single plane Victor Jr. intake manifold M-9424-D302
New Boss block, oil and water pumps, performance oil pan, and high-performance harmonic balancer
Can be used in kit cars, street rods, Mustangs, Fox-bodied cars, and trucks
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If money no object how about a dressed up flat head with a blower? It's kind of going backwards but it is a little different nowadays. That draws alot of attention in the midwest. Not to steal a thread but since someone mentioned it do 2.3 TC or 2.3 SOV engines fit nicely into the sides of stock 32 Ford hood? I have a complete TC driveline and the dream of doing a 32 Ford. As a trail run I already installed one in a 1984 mustang.
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+1 on a flathead
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Well I kinda want to stay away from crate engines cause I want to ether rebuild a motor or put on together for the learning experience.
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Well I kinda want to stay away from crate engines cause I want to ether rebuild a motor or put on together for the learning experience.
A 4.6 is a great engine, but not an easy one to rebuild. Just make sure that you really do your homework before you make your final decision.

Oh, by the way, Deuce and I - we've had this discussion several times in the past few years and neither one of us - wont give an inch . This is what doing a hot rod really is - doing something a little different then the next guy and FUN. Of course, a Ford in a Ford is always best

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Oh, by the way, Deuce and I - we've had this discussion several times in the past few years and neither one of us - wont give an inch .

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This statement does not ring true ... cause I did suggest

him to install the Ford crate engine

I would not ... but if he wants a Ford ... so be it.
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This statement does not ring true ... cause I did suggest

him to install the Ford crate engine

I would not ... but if he wants a Ford ... so be it.

Don't you ever want to just have some fun? Phew!
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So if i wanted to go with the 4.6 it would be a tight squeeze in the 32. Would I have more room in a 33?
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It's a tight fit, regardless of the chassis and body, '28 thru '40. Once you get into the '41 and later Fords(fat fendered cars) you do get a little more under hood room. But that said, what a conversation piece plus sense of accomplishment.

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Thats why im thinking of doing that plus some other custom stuff that Ill send pics for once there done. Since its all in my head right now lol. I guess its time to start searching for a block seeing how being on a island and trying to find that engine is a BIT hard.
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Now i forgot to ask what type of trans
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Now i forgot to ask what type of trans
Get a salvage Mark 8 and take everything (EVERYTHING) out of it. Ford Motor Company spent zillions of engineering dollars to get everything in the car just right. You can now take advantage of that engineering and buy a salvage Mark 8 for under $2000. I have done this many times over the years and it really is the cheapest and best way to produce a good-running rod.

Need a little more room fore/aft? Lengthen the frame a little between the firewall and the radiator. You won't want to run a hood anyway, not with that big beautiful motor hangin' out there.
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So I am SCREWED none of the junk yards on the island have any Mark 8. HUH!!!!!! What about 03-04 mustang mach 1 4.6 4v dohc block instead?
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