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Old 05-04-2002, 05:06 PM
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you will get more for your money and time building a 302 or 351w .they are the easiest to get go fast goodies for and easy to come by. i have a 351c in my 34 coupe,had a hard time finding headers to fit inside the frame.when i did some intake maintenance all the local parts stores all told me the same thing,we have to order the parts you want.we have just about everything for the 302 or 351w in stock. same thing for the other motor choices. however dont let this stop you if you dont mind waitng a week or so for the part you need. good luck with your project.

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You do those yourself? (the rod, that is)

On the subject of models, I must clarify the displacement issue... You DO want displacement in SOME areas, NOT others...
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Old 05-04-2002, 05:48 PM
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Yep JD, I was the proud father of three shelled 351W motors all done over approx. 7 months. I learned a valuble lesson, just because you can cam an engine to turn 7500 and put in strong enough valvesprings and port and pipe the engine to turn it-doesn't mean the engine can handle it. Next time I would spend extra cash and get me some of those Carillo's. OH and one last thing, those cheap factory cast pistons with the cast in steel skirt strengtheners-the rod on the right pulled the pin right out of one of those, I now believe in forged pistons for race engines wholeheartedly.
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thanks for all the info guys!!!
hey chuck, i appreciate your list of engines and all the info you leave at all my post. i do try asking hard questions so i can put you guys to the test! ohh btw, i like those pics of those rods, mabe i should snap some pics of all the messed up **** thats in my autoshop class
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Ahhhh...autoshop class, hallways full of various displacement engines all requiring cc'ing of their chambers and displacement measurement. Direct measurement being the most accurate and enjoyable method in my experience. Best to account for all your measurement fluid so as not to increase the displacement unnecessarily. :p

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if you HAVE to run a ford, a 460 .080 over, forged pistons, high rise with dual quads, big *** cam. pushing 550+ as we speak
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Well, if I had to pick a ford motor it would be the 351w. Great all around motor, it has lots of torque, good horsepower, and enough aftermarket parts to make you go crazy. You could use this engine for almost any application. The only downside i think is that they arent in as much of supply as the 302s.

I was always under the impression that the FE engines are WAAAAY heavy for their size. But, i read in a magazine that a fully dressed FE is about 100lbs lighter than a fully dressed 429/460. Whats more, an FE with aluminum heads and intake weighs less than a 351 with iron heads and intake. Does this sound right to any of you??? Was I mistaken or is the magazine wrong? If this is right, I'd say the FE is the way to go. Even though they're harder to find, they make TONS of low end torque. These also have many aftermarket parts available. though, of course not as much as the windsor. I head of this new company, Genesis Custom Manufacturing, that started making brand new alminum and iron FE blocks. 390, 427 side oiler, 428, 427 SOHC, you name it they make it. Now i think THAT would be the way to go. Think about it, an old ford ranchero, but when you pop the hood, an all aluminum 427 cammer?? That would be tiiiiiight. I have the phone number if anyone is interested
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yea that would be awsome mustangmaniac, i forgot to mention that this was a low-buck project, but its nice to hear what all you guys thing about fords and there engines.
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You guys all picked good motors,but for 2 grand
you can make a heckuva 406 ford by finding an
ol 400M,bore it .30 over(hence a 406),give it
a good standard 3 way valve job,the right cam,
an edelbrock performer manifold,and walla!
400 hp and gobs of torque.I am a glutten for punishment so I like the cleveland engines,
but get a 2-barrel 400 instead of a 4-barrel
cause the heads on the 4 barrel suck for anything
but top speed driving(which these babies ain't
made for)
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hi guys and everyone wants to knough why i like this site all you guys have great input on the ford motors buttttttt i like the 351c overall it took a lot of punishment from me and my son i had one in my 73 mach1 stock with a 2bbl on it would shut a lot of 350s down i have a friend who has a ranchero with a 460 and he loves it but he has a racer with a 351c iv talked to chevy guys and they told me they would build a 460 if they could aford it but for me ill stay 351c even if it takes longer for parts because i like to race and have fun to the clevland has always been strong for me [gas&staying together]in my truck my son shut down a 5.0 mustang i feel it has a lot to do with the driver alwas rember thers always someone around the corner thats better be shure safty comes first may god bless gordon :p
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In your case, Id prolly pick a 351 of some form... The 351W is easiest to get parts for, but the 351C has much more power potential if you can get somebody to work on the heads...
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The first thing to do is to find the weight of the vehicle...I have a 1973 Cougar approx 4000lbs I run a built up 351C close to 400hp, a 302 would be a dog. They run real good 2800lbs and under, I also have a 1968 cougar with 302 which works nicely, but I am in process of swapping out the 302 with the 351C...You cannot go wrong with a 351C, they could be built up strong for under $3,000.00...this is only my opinion, but I have owned 2 1973 cougars, 1968 cougar. Good Luck!
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im think the 302 is the best for engine out there i got one that has no oil pressure at all cuz the bearings are sooo worn out it its got a blown head gasket leaks oil (this all happened beofre i bought it an old lady liked to run it out of oil with a n oil leak and not tell anyone , i found this out after i bought it thank u very much but anyways) it still roasts a lot out there and i put soem serious tear on it i drive thru fields with this thing donuts constantly brake stands everywhere, goin 45 mph slammin it in reverse and flooring it and doin posi strips backwards ive doen it all to break this engine and i wont give whatssoever ive been driving it nonstop for the past year as well as all the fun and crap i do to it cant beat it
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Small blocks are great if you have the $ to make them go. Best bet is the 351W. If $ is a factor try the 390 FE, lots in junk yards and cheap. A little heavy but have great low end and can make good HP with lots of torque. Both of the motors will bolt in with only a change in the factory motor mounts.
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The FE is always a good choice. Bolt-on performance parts can get pricey. You can build an impressive FE with junkyard parts, the demand is fairly low and availability is pretty good.
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