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Old 09-24-2003, 01:37 PM
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Whoa dude, no debate, didn't mean to imply that. You have assumed a lot from my reply.

I haven't given up on my HVLP gun, it's just not up to the job of moving clear like I would want. Keep in mind that this is a cheap HVLP gun. I had to crank the air pressure up too high and the material control valve all the way open, this resulted in more paint in the air than a conventional gun. My conventional Binks gun gives acceptable results at a lower air pressure and less suspended overspray. I have no doubt a quality HVLP gun such as a Sata is more than up to the task of applying clear.

I am in no way implying HVLP guns are less than useful, however keep in mind that HVLP guns came into beaing at the behest of the "tree huggers" in an attempt to cut down on VOC emissions.

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Dude??????

Tree huggers????????????

Sucking cyanide ain't fun. Conventional guns were invented in the dark ages when paint was paint and not invented in a modern day chemistry lab. New "paint" is the result of chemists inventing shinier, tougher, longer lasting paint. The toxic ingredients necessitate safer technology, not tree huggers. That is common sense. Toxic fumes results in Cancer and death. Pretty final. HVLP cuts down on the toxic overspray. If tree huggers had anything to do with new application technology, then good for them. When your paint won't lay down and flow it needs to be reduced not blasted on. By the way reducer is relatively cleaner than cyanide based epoxy.
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Get a Harbor Freight 1qt siphon gun. I have two (the oldest one for fiberglass gel coat, primer etc., the newest one for good paint) and as one goes bad I buy another one. Cost is only about $40 and they are as good as the $$$$$ Binks and DeVilbiss ones (it just may be I am not good enough painter to notice the difference!). Great learning tools.

I also have a HVLP free head, 2qt pressure pot unit I use for painting car bodies 'cause I can aim the head any direction without fear of sputtering or dripping. I know the purists like the gravity cup guns but the free head one sure works great for me and I don't worry about running out of paint during a coat or angle I hold the head.


Learn how to do base coat/ clear coat. It is by far the best finish available today. Any quality brand is fine, just follow their label directions and things should go fine.
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Learn how to do base coat/ clear coat. It is by far the best finish available today. Any quality brand is fine, just follow their label directions and things should go fine.
I totally agree Willys, lots better than lacquer & enamel.

P.S. heard from Gibbon Monday, the 34 is almost ready, could get it in about two weeks....yippeeee

I'm bailing out of this thread, it's statring to sound like a newsgroup.

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.... heard from Gibbon Monday, the 34 is almost ready, could get it in about two weeks....yippeeee
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Now the REAL work starts - and lots of it!
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Old 09-25-2003, 05:50 AM
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Now the REAL work starts - and lots of it!
Yep, first item of business will be to place the engine/trans in the chassis and get the steering worked out, may be contacting you.

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I think youd be better off with a Barret M99 "Big shot". I one one and love it. Its a great 1 minute of angle gun. OOhhh......You ment Paint gun......... Now why'd you have to go and tease me like that??? lol
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I too, agree with Willys. I've got two old Craftsman suction guns - one for primer and one for finish coat application. While base-coat-clear-coat systems can't be beat for ease of application, they are most generally an acrylic urethane based product. If you can smell this stuff while you're applying it, chances are, you're either killing brain cells or yourself, or both. A full hood and filtered outside air source should be used in conjunction with any automotive finish product. It's even more important if you're dealing with acrylic urethanes, theyBnasty.

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With a name like Unstable its prolly not a good Idea to start a topic of as "Whats a good gun for a beginer".
Maybe its just me.
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best i've been told is Sata, the more experienced the painter, the better they can do with shoddy guns, so if you get a great gun, it will prolly give you a better job
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357 and a 38 special !
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paint gun

Painting , next best to chrome , paint guns like any guns beauty and best, are in the eyes of the beholder. I use both suction and gravity feed, and they are from harbor freight . lowes etc. but the point being, is the paint besides the gun, the gravity feed guns are great once you learn how to use them , buuutttt , the needle size and orfice have a great deal to do with what you are shooting, acrylic, enamel, primer , as such, because you won't get the finish, or coverage. but you will get the stress. I have been there , got the coffee cup , bumper sticker, and t-shirt.
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For painting tips go to:
www.autobody101.com/articles/
A very good starter gun is a Sharpe Cobalt.I have a very,very good used one for sale if you are interested.I'll take $50 for it.Works great.
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just revisited this thread because I purchased the paint recently and I'm going to start shooting...PAINT.

I can shoot the balls off any arsehole at 500 yards with a .223/5.56 it's not hard.

spraying paint...might be a different story.
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