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Old 08-05-2008, 01:22 PM
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best materials for Black paint job

Hello;
I am getting ready to paint my 65 impala ss black.
Could someone suggest the best materials to use for a nice deep dark black?
from epoxy primer to bc/cc. Including activators,harders,reducers,cleaners and so on.
Also i heard spi is no longer selling black base coat if this is true what brand would be compatible?. and with what clear.
It's been along time since i painted a car.(acrylic lacq.)
I bought a astro evo 4014 paint gun to finish with.
any help will be appreciated.
THANKS KEN

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Ken,

I like Sherwin Williams paints, and use the Ultra 7000 BC/CC with great results. I don't have a preference for clears, have had good results with both S/W, and Western products. I don't have booth, and always use a rather "hot" reducer, figuring it's better to color sand out some orange peel that get the bugs (and runs ) out!

Epoxy prime over bare metal, Kwick prime (or FeatherFill) polyester filler for quick, high build over sanding scratches and pitting, 2K urethane primer to finish and seal, then color. Nothing finer than 320 DA or I get whoop-dee-do's, block with a long board to get the ripples out, and you're good to go.

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single stage urethane . you want pitch black, not any car color. also use high quality reducer or it will turn brown.
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I was kind of surprised at the number of different types of blacks when I was looking for Model A Fender paint.

The formulas vary and you will be surprised to find there are yellow based blacks and blue based blacks. I am sure there are others. The blue based blacks are deeper black, so I am told. Never had the opportunity to really see the differences.

For PPG Concept the off the shelf blacks are yellow based and they had to mix up the blue based black.

Probably not much help, but something to mull over.
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years ago when we used lacquer we used mixing black with about 20% thalo blue. shot with slow thinner and retarder so all the moisture would bleed out. moisture will cause the pig to change to brown.
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black and clears

Hello, I use Alsa's black and clears, i paint guitars and quality is an issue ... Alsa's black covers in 2 coats and speed clears the same.. as others have stated starting with awesome prime and sand job ends up with a awesome paint job.. are you going to cut and buff the car...? If so the alsa clears are great, polishing is a breeze...great luck to you..
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Did you ever get your impala painted?
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