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Old 05-31-2011, 12:43 PM
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Another good sleeper would be a LWB '91-'92 S-10 2WD with a 4.3/700R4. With a mild cam, some tuning on the TBI and decent gears they can be surprisingly quick. Most came with 2.56 gears so even 3.08's make a big difference in performance. A co-worker and I had identical '92 S-10's except his had 2.56 gears and mine had 3.08's. We got identical mileage but mine would literally leave his in the dust. I was able to run fender to fender with a V-8 Dakota as well. Several people that rode in it insisted I had swapped in a V-8, now it did NOT run as good a one with a V-8 swap but it did run pretty decent and it was 100% bone stock. I would have loved to have seen what it could do with some 3.73's and a "tune".

A guy here in town had a stock looking '91 LWB with an aluminum head LT-1/4L60E in it. Talk about a sleeper! He now has a Blazer Xtreme with an LS-1. Not exactly a sleeper but still pretty cool.

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Old 05-31-2011, 05:19 PM
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you gotta chevette?
Corvette sorry about that, its also not a sleeper
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Old 05-31-2011, 05:26 PM
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Another good sleeper would be a LWB '91-'92 S-10 2WD with a 4.3/700R4. With a mild cam, some tuning on the TBI and decent gears they can be surprisingly quick. Most came with 2.56 gears so even 3.08's make a big difference in performance. A co-worker and I had identical '92 S-10's except his had 2.56 gears and mine had 3.08's. We got identical mileage but mine would literally leave his in the dust. I was able to run fender to fender with a V-8 Dakota as well. Several people that rode in it insisted I had swapped in a V-8, now it did NOT run as good a one with a V-8 swap but it did run pretty decent and it was 100% bone stock. I would have loved to have seen what it could do with some 3.73's and a "tune".

A guy here in town had a stock looking '91 LWB with an aluminum head LT-1/4L60E in it. Talk about a sleeper! He now has a Blazer Xtreme with an LS-1. Not exactly a sleeper but still pretty cool.
4.3s have a lot of potential too! For the beginners, the 4.3 is pretty much a 350 Chevy with two cylinders removed (much like the Dodge 3.9 is based off the 318). Both v6 engines have good potential, but my preference is the Chevrolet, even if you need to remove the fender liners to access the spark plugs.
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I recall seeing a show on the speed channel or spike, one of those head to head competitions, where they hotroded some Astro vans. The inspiration was a Lamborghini. One had a $1000 turbo bolt on kit. Suspension was upgraded, but the cool thing was the paint job and the chop top.




You can pretty much hot rod anything if you use your imagination. Find something you like and that you can afford. Time and money will be your biggest issues with any build.
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I personally like the S10 swap. My first one was a sleeper, 85 S10 ext cab with the old light blue paint and the clear coat peeling, but when people pull up at a light they would raise an eyebrow listening to it (had the summit 1104 cam for the duration!) It was a stock 355 pushing about 280hp, I put a bigger cam and some 70cc fast burn heads and it was a lot of fun and in expensive to build. The swap mounting kits are like $50 bucks and another $160 for the special headers that the steering shaft goes through. If you were to drop in a stock 350/350 or a 305 it would be plenty for a kid and no more dangerous than the 80's model camaro's cause they all had the same style frames but a lot more fun! The one Im building now is attached here
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I vote for the 78 and up G-bodies. I have a 79 Malibu that was originally a V6 car and I swapped in a 350 very easily.
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not a good teen sleeper but a good married guy with kids sleeper has to be the new gto's. I have always had corvettes but now with 2 kids in car seats I really want a goat with a supercharger or a jeep srt-8. for the teen I say why build a sleeper do a cool muscle car or a old f-100 pickup with a v8.
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I have a g body and love it. not much of a sleeper though cause most people recognize the body style and think of monte carlos grand nationals and such... but they are a great body style to build. I like the sleeper build the guys on horsepower are doing. That generation of thunderbirds arent very sporty looking and would definitely throw a lot of people off.. I also have an s10 with a v8 in it and its sick and an easy do! its been done plenty of times but is still a cool build. Only problem is they had 7.5" rear ends just like the g-bodies .... very weak. Like someone suggested earlier a ranger with a 302 would be cool... or maybe a modular motor swap... put some turbos on a 4v 4.6l and go nuts with it... the rangers came with 8.8 rearends which are pretty strong rearends.... If I was looking for a sleeper car i would be looking for a solid car that doesn't look pretty or sporty from the outside.. full frame, lots of room for a v8, and cheap upgrades for drivetrain and suspension. Good luck with your build.
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i always thought to take a G body, like a caprice or malibu and drop a 383 in one of them, haha that would be a wicked set up, and really unexpected from a stock lookin one.
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i always thought to take a G body, like a caprice or malibu and drop a 383 in one of them, haha that would be a wicked set up, and really unexpected from a stock lookin one.
The Caprice is a b-body actually.
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Hippie already mentioned the 78-88 Caprice/Impala, I know of one that is a coupe and has a stock LS1 in it and it will do 12's in the quarter. Looks like granny's grocery getter.
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Hippie already mentioned the 78-88 Caprice/Impala, I know of one that is a coupe and has a stock LS1 in it and it will do 12's in the quarter. Looks like granny's grocery getter.
I think that the sixth generation b-body coupes are some of the meanest looking cars of that era. Especially with the fishbowl rear window. Still definitely a "grandpa car" by most other people standards.
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What about a Late 70's early 80's Malibu or Monte Carlo?
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I would think so.
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turbo fwd 80's chryslers. do all your research beforehand and you can buy one and get it into the 13's or 14's for $1500 or less (including purchase price), and who in their right mind would ever think a plymouth acclaim or a reliant would be quick?

take gary donnovans reliant for example in this old video that everyone has seen

www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8R5BwUVYqc


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