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View Poll Results: Best V-8?
Chevy Big Block 52 11.13%
Chevy Small Block 245 52.46%
Chyrsler "B" Big Block 400 1 0.21%
Chyrsler "LA" Small Block 340-360 12 2.57%
Chyrsler "RB" Hemi 426 52 11.13%
Ford Big Block 429-460 11 2.36%
Olds Rocket 18 3.85%
Ford "FE" 390-427 or Cleveland 351, specify in post 28 6.00%
Ford "Windsor" 351 and for arguments sake 302 28 6.00%
Pontiac 350-400 20 4.28%
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Old 01-20-2005, 08:27 PM
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Best V-8 ever

In the immortal words of that great Orator, Rodney King, "CCCCCaannt Weee aalllllll jjust ggggett along"?

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sure we can, I'm not really trying to get anybody going, it was just kindof a poor statement backed up with weak information that wasn't exclusive to that mill-

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I thought 4V Cleveland motors are scarce
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best engine

There are a lot of Cleveland engines lying around, and the 2 bbl versions arent in demand as they once were, especially in light of all the goodies available for the Winsor now. A market which gets better every year.
Clevelands were in fact, even with the 2 bbl head, one of the most potent engines ever made, due to the head design.
Being a Ford man, Im also well aware of design flaws, which for the most part can be remedied very easily and inexpensively.
If there are those out there that do run Clevelands and are curious about improvements to both the cooling system and the oiling system, feel free to send me a blurb on it.

I agree with you on the half baked information thing, Killer, I just couldnt let anything pass with out doing that quote. LOL
Being that we are all brand loyal to some extent or another.
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Thanks for the good info Max, we need more guys like you-

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Popularity contest?

Well I think the SBF is the best...why because thats what I build.

This means nothing as this topic very subjective. Not surprised to see the SBC...after all why would anybody consider a Ford?

That is the general consensus anyway, and I probably would not have been disappointed if I followed everyones advice. I went a different path however and have not looked back.

SBF's are fast, tough and affordable. Sound familiar Chevy people? The difference in my opinion is the versatile "Fox" body Ford that makes the most of light weight small block power.

IMO, dollar for dollar you cannot build a faster car for the money than a SBF "Fox" body Ford. Anyone can do it if your not prejudice.

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Hemi has the best power design, but the sbc has the best in terms of ease of building because almost every part interchanges. HG
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How many voted for an engine they have never owned or worked on?

Also, and more importantly, has fuel economy and/or efficiency factored into anybodies decision?
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Vote????? I didn't get around to that. I would say the Chrysler 318 would be one of the best and this is coming from a Ford Guy. I like all the big three even AMC, I have really no problem with any of them, I drive a Chevy, race a Ford and stare at my Dodge rusting away.
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Mopar 383
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Shawnski,
I too am a rabid fan of the SBF. But the fact is that it as well as the SBC are both antiquated tech, and eventually both will go the way of my dear old venerated Flathead.
That being said, I have difficulties with the SBF being the greatest V-8. Is it powerful? Yes. Reliable? Yes. Can it be built to produce mega tons of power? Yes.
The biggest problem with an SBF has been, is, and always will be the production heads. No matter what you do to them, they will always be a mediocre breathing head, mainly due to the soda straw exhaust ports. That has been well remedied with the myraid of after market heads though.
The killer is, that as with the SBC, the design tech in that engine is mostly close to a century old now, and has been well surpassed by better products, case in point is the the new V-8's produced by Ford, which cube for cube are capable of far more than any of thier predecessors.
That being said, there are good and bad features in all of them.
Nuff said by yours truly.
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I would guess just to start off that I had read in one of the earlier post in this thread about the SBC having the cheap tin timing cover (this is just a starting point)... Well since I work on just about everthing every day and yes I do... I can say this... As for Dodge & Ford both having the sandwhich style timing cover/water pump design that they both missed on that one for sure... First of all after a few years of water going through those passages to get to the water pump you wind up having damn bolts break both in the block and in the cover and that just plain sucks... (had it happen today infact on both a Ford & a Dodge) Yes this has happened many times in the past also... This is a design flaw point blank because the water seeps into bolt area`s and corrodes the alum and causes the bolts to freeze in place and break when you try to take them out... (from the factory)


This is just one instance that I would like to point out... But for ease of maintenace, simplicity of design and just plain reliable the SBC for its humble beginnings to its newest design is hands down has to be the best... Even with the design changes over the years its still a SBC (1955 to...?) BTW this is 2005 so 50 years of production must say something...
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If i see another 350 or crate engine hotrod i think i will get sick.....I think the concept of hotrodders is to be different so ditch that 350 and be original
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I like the Buick Nailhead great old school motor. Tons of low end torque. The coolest looking intake, valve covers and heads ever. The late 60's 401 and 425. Just personal taste from a newbie.
we must think alike... 1971 Buick GS stage 1 455c.i.
350HP
510 ft.lbs.

If I'm right buick made a prototype turbo v8 in the late 1960s with over 800 ft.lbs.

geez, those kids in Buick's R&D were sick. The t-types, GNX, were wicked too.
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im a chevy guy. but i have had everything. i think a small block chevy is the best, heck my sis has a 78 camaro with the usuall 350ci intake and dual exaust, and it will do 15.5s and get 25mpg to.

pontiac has good power and mpg to but the problem is it dont like rpm much.

dodge 318 are good for mpg but not much power.

dodge 383-400-440s are good but i havent seen one that was comparably better than a chevy small block.

dodge hemi is ok dont know much about but all i know is THEY ARE NOT FOR MPG.

but the new chevy LT and LS engines are VARY GOOD, you got lots of power and mpg

ford winsor blocks or good but i have never scene a ford get good mpg ether.

buicks and olds is in my opinion is just as good as pontiac.
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