Best way to remove a trans am sub frame - Page 3 - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Hotrodding Basics
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #31 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2012, 05:49 AM
deadbodyman's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last wiki edit: Stripping paint Last photo:
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: augusta,ga.
Age: 53
Posts: 6,082
Wiki Edits: 11

Thanks: 25
Thanked 444 Times in 373 Posts
getting it all out together is doable but it'll still have to go back together seperately theres no way your going to get that subframe back in and lined up right with the motor and tranny intact,you have to jostile it around.. .you might as well just pull the motor and tranny out as one,,, piece of cake with the rad supp and fenders out,then drop the subframe do your paint and replace the mounts,then put the motor back in ,,,,you can rent an engine hoist cheap (a lot less than the mounts cost)
Not only that but you'll want to paint the subframe while its out ,no sence painting the fir wall and putting a crappy frame back in I'm sure you'll want to paint the motor too..Nothing like fresh paint under a hood...It may not be the plan now but trust me when your done EVERYTHING under that hood will be painted and clean..

    Advertisement

Last edited by deadbodyman; 04-30-2012 at 05:56 AM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #32 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2012, 07:12 AM
MARTINSR's Avatar
Brian Martin,Freelance adviser
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: San francisco bay area
Age: 55
Posts: 13,098
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1,279
Thanked 1,122 Times in 997 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by rusthater89
Yes Brian, I do NOT want to remove the engine or the trans from the sub frame. I only want to remove the sub frame from the body.

Let me make sure I got it right.

I put front wheels on the sub frame. I support the rear of sub frame. I undo the sub frame bushings. I lift body and roll it away.

Just how in the world do you plan on "lifting the body and roll it away" with the motor and trans floating in mid air? Pull the motor like everyone is telling you to, you are going to get hurt.

Brian
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #33 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2012, 07:44 AM
MARTINSR's Avatar
Brian Martin,Freelance adviser
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: San francisco bay area
Age: 55
Posts: 13,098
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1,279
Thanked 1,122 Times in 997 Posts
Here is what I am talking about. Support the body and remove the sub frame.





http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=124835

Brian
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #34 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2012, 09:07 AM
poncho62's Avatar
Out of the Loop Moderator
 
Last wiki edit: Streetbeasts links
Last journal entry: at car show
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hanover, Ontario, Canada
Age: 62
Posts: 16,864
Wiki Edits: 5

Thanks: 20
Thanked 250 Times in 203 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by MARTINSR
Just how in the world do you plan on "lifting the body and roll it away" with the motor and trans floating in mid air? Pull the motor like everyone is telling you to, you are going to get hurt.

Brian
Brian..I think he is talking about leaving the engine in the subframe and keeping it as a unit.....This is about the most mixed up thread ever.....

This is why I asked the question in post 3

However, if yoiu want to pull the subframe to clean it etc, you are going to want to pull the engine/trans too to do a decent job....Why not just rent a cherry picker and get it all done at once?
__________________
Ontario Rodders

Budget RVs
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #35 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2012, 09:19 AM
MARTINSR's Avatar
Brian Martin,Freelance adviser
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: San francisco bay area
Age: 55
Posts: 13,098
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1,279
Thanked 1,122 Times in 997 Posts
Yes he is, but that photos I show IS how you would do that.

The photo may show a cherry picker on the sub frame, and no motor but the body is support exactly the same as he needs.

Brian
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #36 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2012, 09:33 AM
rusthater89's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: new jersey
Posts: 208
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 4
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanks for inputs. I will support the body at the rear frame/axle housing and also in the front like Brian showed. I will also have jack stands in the front part of the sub frame (under the radiator support mount) as well as the rear of the sub frame. I'll even put my tires under the car to be safe.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #37 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2012, 09:44 AM
MARTINSR's Avatar
Brian Martin,Freelance adviser
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: San francisco bay area
Age: 55
Posts: 13,098
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1,279
Thanked 1,122 Times in 997 Posts
Lift the body, unbolt the sub frame from it, and roll it out from under the car on it's wheels. You will need to steady it with a floor jack or cart with wheels under the trans crossmember but it will just roll out.

I personally have a number of wheeled little carts like for moving furniture that work great for that sort of thing.

Of course you will want the jack stands to just keep it steady until you can get the rear under the crossmember that the tranny mount is on setting on a cart or floor jack.

Brian
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #38 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2012, 09:45 AM
malc's Avatar
Living At The Speed Of Life
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Espaņa Right Coast
Posts: 3,259
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 90
Thanked 92 Times in 78 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by rusthater89
Thanks for inputs. I will support the body at the rear frame/axle housing and also in the front like Brian showed. I will also have jack stands in the front part of the sub frame (under the radiator support mount) as well as the rear of the sub frame. I'll even put my tires under the car to be safe.
Hope it goes according to plan, check everything a hundred times, be safe.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #39 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2012, 09:47 AM
poncho62's Avatar
Out of the Loop Moderator
 
Last wiki edit: Streetbeasts links
Last journal entry: at car show
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hanover, Ontario, Canada
Age: 62
Posts: 16,864
Wiki Edits: 5

Thanks: 20
Thanked 250 Times in 203 Posts
Another thing to think about is what you are going to do with that immobile body.....plan on it not moving while you are messing with the subframe. Put it in a spot where it can stay a while
__________________
Ontario Rodders

Budget RVs
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #40 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2012, 10:05 AM
rusthater89's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: new jersey
Posts: 208
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 4
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanks everyone, When I eventually finish I'll see if I can post a pic or two.

Also if I wanted to raise the body higher after the sub frame removal, like if i was working on the floors. Besides the pinch weld where are the best places to put the jack under.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #41 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2012, 10:15 AM
MARTINSR's Avatar
Brian Martin,Freelance adviser
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: San francisco bay area
Age: 55
Posts: 13,098
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1,279
Thanked 1,122 Times in 997 Posts
At the "torque box" that being the forward most sub frame mount and where the front of the leaf springs mount.

Brian
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #42 (permalink)  
Old 04-30-2012, 11:00 AM
rusthater89's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: new jersey
Posts: 208
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 4
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanks Brian
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #43 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2012, 06:08 PM
farna's Avatar
Member
 
Last wiki edit: AMC V-8s Last photo:
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Batesburg-Leesville, SC
Age: 52
Posts: 1,635
Wiki Edits: 14

Thanks: 0
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
He's got the right idea. The body will just lift up and roll back, leaving the subframe with the engine and transmission on it. The problem now is how to lift the body and roll it back. Get three good friends (two people each side) and run a 10' 2x4 through the rolled down windows, lift, and roll back. 2x4 will be fine, it's going to flex some but there won't be a great deal of weight and the moment arm will be relatively short. But if you want to use a 4x4 (or doubled 2x4s) or 3" or so steel pipe that;s fine. Putting it back will be a bit more of a chore! I suggest you roll it straight back and leave it -- don't move anything around. That will make it easier to just pick up and pull back forward, but it's going to take a lot of work to put it back together. You'll need four friends to move the body around (they won't be holding it up all the time) while you lay on your back and tell them how to move to line things up. No easy way to do this, with or without the engine in place.

Remember, there is no right or wrong way to do all this... but make sure you're as safe as you can be. I take that back -- the way that gets someone (or something) hurt is the wrong way, all others are good.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #44 (permalink)  
Old 05-16-2012, 08:13 AM
malc's Avatar
Living At The Speed Of Life
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Espaņa Right Coast
Posts: 3,259
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 90
Thanked 92 Times in 78 Posts
Whatīs the story so far, have we got that subframe out ?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #45 (permalink)  
Old 05-16-2012, 12:48 PM
rusthater89's Avatar
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: new jersey
Posts: 208
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 4
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by malc
Whatīs the story so far, have we got that subframe out ?
I'm getting there I am currently in the process of putting epoxy primer on all my front end sheet metal.

After I finish that I am gonna put all that sheet metal away to the basment which will give me the room in my barely adequate size garage to store the body and sub frame.

At the rate I am going I'll say by June I'll have the sub frame out.

Thanks for asking.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Recent Hotrodding Basics posts with photos

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
how to remove cab off frame.... unearthly57 Body - Exterior 22 11-15-2011 07:01 PM
77 Trans Am Frame/Suspension setup Tomlowe523 Suspension - Brakes - Steering 4 09-30-2009 02:49 PM
Olds trans remove 85406 Transmission - Rearend 3 07-11-2006 06:10 AM
How do remove motor mounts from frame? In_Style Hotrodding Basics 5 10-12-2005 07:52 PM
how to remove ignition lock cylinder on a 1981 trans am stoney 81ta Electrical 9 12-13-2003 07:30 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.