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Old 07-05-2007, 07:31 PM
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Which is better a 1969 Camaro X33 or X77 Z28

Hey guys I have an opportunity to purchase two 1969 Z/28 's and I can't buy 2 of them. On is an X33 and the other is an X77. They both are 4 speeds with original DZ engine and are both comparable in condition.

My question is what one will be more valuable in the long run the X33 or X77? What is the overall difference between the two codes? Thanks for your help.

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Both are worth a mint if they are as you claim. It is hard to tell which is worth more, it depends on the options list, and condition.

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I once was told those codes meant wether it was built in the LA or the other Plant I think was in Ohio. The 69 Z I once owned had X77 and was verified built not in LA. I was in San Diego at the time and most of the 69's there had X33.
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So one was more of a smogger than the other? If one was built in (or built specifically for California markets) it will have about 1974 smog controls and the other would be almost void of smog stuff.

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what exactly is the difference??
besides where they are built
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1969 Camaro VIN Codes
Example VIN Number (0=number X=letter) 000000X000000
Third Digit 3:six-cylinder 4:V8
Fourth Digit 3:coupe 6:convertible
Sixth Digit 9:1969 Model
Seventh Digit N:Norwood assembly L:Van Nuys
Last Six Digits Build Number

1969 Camaro Measurements
Length 186.0"
Width 74.0"
Wheelbase 108.0"


1969 Camaro Color Codes
Code Exterior Color
10 Tuxedo Black
40 Butternut Yellow
50 Dover White
51 Dusk Blue
52 Garnet Red
53 Glacier Blue
55 Azure Turquoise
57 Fathom Green
59 Frost Green
61 Burnished Brown
63 Champagne
65 Olympic Gold
67 Burgundy
69 Cortez Silver
71 LeMans Blue
72 Hugger Orange
76 Daytona Yellow
79 Rallye Green
53/50 Glacier Blue/Dover White
55/50 Azure Turquoise/Dover White
53/51 Glacier Blue/Dusk Blue
51/53 Dusk Blue/Glacier Blue
65/50 Olympic Gold/Dover White
61/63 Burnished Brown/Champagne


1969 Camaro Horsepower Ratings
Engine Displacement Rated Horsepower
Base 6-cylinder 230ci 140bhp
Turbo-Thrift 6-cylinder (L22 Option) 250ci 155bhp
Base V8 (early 1969) 327ci 210bhp
Base V8 (part way through 1969 production) 307ci 200bhp
Turbo-Fire V8 (LM1 Option) 350ci 225bhp
Turbo-Fire V8 (L65 Option) 350ci 250bhp
Z28 DZ302 V8 (Z28 Option) 302ci 290bhp
SS Base Engine Turbo-Fire V8 (L48 Option) 350ci 300bhp
SS Engine 2 Turbo-Jet V8 (L35 Option) 396ci 325bhp
SS Engine 3 Turbo-Jet V8 (L34 Option) 395ci 350bhp
SS Engine 4 Turbo-Jet V8 (L78 Option) 396ci 375bhp
SS Engine 5 Turbo-Jet V8 w/aluminum heads (L89 Option) 396ci 375bhp
COPO 427 (ZL1 Option) 427ci 435bhp


1969 Camaro Option Codes
RPO Description Quantity Built
12337 Camaro Sport coupe 6-cylinder 34541
12367 Camaro convertible 6-cylinder 1707
12437 Camaro Sport coupe 8-cylinder 190971
12467 Camaro convertible 8-cylinder 15866
AS1 Standard front shoulder belts 47
AS4 Custom deluxe rear shoulder belts 37
AS5 Standard rear shoulder belts 78
A01 Soft Ray glass tint (all windows) 114733
A31 Power windows 3058
A39 Custom deluxe front and rear belts 4901
A67 Rear folding seat 4397
A85 Custom deluxe front shoulder belts 922
B37 Floor mats 37158
B93 Door edge guards 57128
CE1 Headlight washer 116
C06 Power convertible top 9631
C50 Rear window defroster 7912
C60 Air conditioning 44737
DX1 Front accent striping 20479
D33 Left mirror remote control 7771
D34 Visor vanity mirror 9002
D55 Console with floor-mount shifter 156225
D80 Spoiler 19040
D90 Sport striping 26729
D96 Fender striping 5176
F41 Special purpose front & rear suspension 5929
G31 Special rear springs 556
G80 Positraction rear axle 48755
JL8 Front & rear disc power brakes 206
J50 Front & rear power drum brakes 82890
J52 Front disc & rear drum power brakes 67231
KD5 Heavy-duty engine ventilation 52
K02 Temperature controlled fan 1052
K05 Engine block heater 2124
K79 42-amp Delcotron generator 224
K85 63-amp Delcotron generator 114
LM1 Turbo-Fire V8 10406
L22 Turbo-Thrift 6-cylinder 18660
L34 SS 396 Turbo-Jet Engine Option 3 2018
L35 SS 396 Turbo-Jet Engine Option 2 6752
L48 SS 350 Turbo-Fire Engine Option 22339
L78 SS 396 Turbo-Jet Engine Option 4 4889
L89 SS 396 Engine Option 5 375bhp with aluminum heads 311
MB1 Torque-drive transmission 2186
MC1 Special 3-speed transmission 3079
M11 Floor mounted shifter 25586
M20 Wide ratio 4-speed manual transmission 37816
M21 Close ratio 4-speed manual transmission 26501
M22 Heavy-duty close ratio 4-speed manual transmission 2117
M35 Powerglide automatic transmission 78849
M40 Turbo Hydra-matic automatic transmission 66423
NC8 Dual chambered exhaust 1526
N10 Dual exhaust 5545
N33 Tilt steering column 6575
N34 Walnut-grained steering wheel 6883
N40 Power steering 141607
N44 Quick ratio steering 2161
N65 Space saver tire 2228
N95 Simulated wire wheel covers 2118
N96 Mag style wheel covers 2866
PA2 Mag-spoke style wheel covers 1362
PK8 E78x14" 2-ply whitewall tires 102328
PL5 F70x14" 2-ply white letter tires 30605
PW7 F70x14" 2-ply white stripe tires 14457
PW8 F70x14" 2-ply red stripe tires 6243
PY4 F70x14" fiberglass belt white stipe tires 5783
PY5 F70x14" fiberglass belt red stripe tires 1085
P01 Bright metal wheel covers 106386
P06 Wheel trim rings 2401
T60 Heavy-duty battery 9738
U15 Speed warning indicator 2111
U16 Tachometer 1410
U17 Special instruments 29524
U35 Electric clock 20330
U46 Light monitoring system 1450
U57 Stereo tape system 6239
U63 AM pushbutton radio 206598
U69 AM-FM pushbutton radio 8271
U73 Manual rear mount antenna 16394
U79 AM-FM stereo 2359
U80 Rear seat speaker 26862
V01 Heavy duty radiator 3802
V31 Front bumper guards 12657
V32 Rear bumper guards 12369
V75 Tire chain liquid 188
ZJ7 Rally wheels 48735
ZJ9 Auxiliary lighting group 15768
ZK3 Custom deluxe seat & shoulder belts 18760
ZL1 Aluminum block 427ci engine 69
ZL2 Special ducted hood 10026
Z10 Special accent striping
Z11 Indy sport convertible accents 3675
Z21 Style trim group 102740
Z22 Rally sport package 37773
Z23 Special interior 66469
Z27 Super Sport package 34932
Z28 Special performance package 20302
Z87 Custom interior 39875
- Two tone paint 5909
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Every Z/28 I saw back in the day had a smog pump and air injection tubes on the exhaust manifolds. That was the extent of the air controls.

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Location H - Exterior Trim Codes


X11 - Style Trim Group (includes SS350)* (Be sure to check out the * below)
X22 - Style Trim Group with SS396 (black rear panel)
X33 - Style Trim Group with Special Performance Equipment (Z28)
X44 - Base car
X55 - Base car with SS350 (rear fender louvers, black body sill**)
X66 - Base car with SS396 (rear fender louvers, black rear panel, black body sill**)
X77 - Base car with Special Performance Equipment (Z28)
Z11 - Indy Pace Car Accents convertible
Z10 - Indy Pace Car Accents coupe - Hardtop (estimates between 250 and 500)
D80 - Air Spoiler Equipment (when used not all cars built with spoilers were coded)
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This may have been a for fun post. I PM'd the gentleman asking for some more information and have heard zero.

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