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Old 07-23-2009, 06:53 AM
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Better then JB weld!

First off I must say I DON'T have any first hand knowledge about this product! BUT after reading the info on the link it sounds like GOOD STUFF! I thought I'd share with some guys that might find it useful.
http://www.belzona.com/prod1k.aspx

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I noticed at the bottom of the page, "Copyright 1952-2009" so it looks as if the company has been around a while. If all those claims are valid then this would indeed be some very interesting stuff.
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Old 07-23-2009, 09:08 AM
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They started in 1952, and I had never heard of them until now. I searched around their site a little, and found this.

http://www.belzona.com/locations.aspx

They must supply real good products, to have gotten this big. It shows and outlet near here, and I'll give it a try.
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Old 07-23-2009, 09:22 AM
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That's good info, I am filing it into my new favorites folder I just started today, car stuff. A brain fart fer shure, I should have done this years ago,,,,keeps the car stuff sorted from the not-so-car-stuff.
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I used this stuff once to fix a feathering boat propellor back in the early 90's in mid-atlantic. We destroyed the internal gearing. It did everything they said it would. We used that prop for a long time after. Carry it frequently now since that time especially on offshore work.

IIRC they said on the advertising that every American tank in the gulf war carried a kit for emergency repairs. I remember being amazed at how heavy the products were.
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Old 07-23-2009, 08:17 PM
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Another note on this good stuff, Belzona has been used for years by head porters to repair or alter cylinder head ports and intake manifolds. It holds well, and has to be ground out to be removed if used on correctly prepped surfaces.
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belzona

we use it at work for all kids of repairs holds up great used it to patch a sump tank and that was 4 years ago and still holding and the tank has hot water with chemicals in it
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I used this in the late 80's on A AMC Eagle Drove over a man hole in the snow an tore off the starter. Broke the block were one of the starter bolts go. Repaired the block and Had the car for 5 more years it worked out great.
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We have a epoxy that blows JB WELD away too. Its called "Epoxy Putty" its made by Valco Cincinnati Consumer Products Inc.

Valco was also started in 1952, Though the consumer products division wasn't started until around 1990.

Epoxy putty is fuel proof, oil proof, can cure under water. cures full strength in one hour. Holds 18 ft. lbs. of torque on 3/8-16 thread without issue. I have seen it hold up on a cracked catylitic convertor but its only rated for 500 degree's. Also excellent for head & intake work. part number is 710XX636 and retail is $5.90 for 2oz 2 part tube. Of course case price is much cheaper for dozen qty.

It is a very amazing product. The shifter knob on my Super Case muncie equipped 69' Firebird is held on with epoxy putty and its been used and abused with powershifts alot!

More at www.valco-cp.com
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Its true we do use this on military vehicles. Its a item that I have in my tool box for emergencies and also in a repair kit (don't know how specific I can get without getting into trouble... )

But I have used this product multiple times (1121), and it works for everything.

I've used it on alot of repairs and saved alot of money and time doing it.

Even holds up under extremly hight torque, 10400 ft/lbs of torque to be exact... once again I'll see how specific I can get but basically fixed a broken U joint.

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JB Weld is a consumer quality epoxy. Nothing special but does a good job in most cases. There are many industrial quality epoxy adhesives that are far superior to the JB Weld class of products. I have never used the Belzona brand but I have used Devcon Liquid Steel and I can attest it is an incredible product. Cures much harder than JB or other common epoxies, super strong bond, totally machinable, adequate for replacing broken pieces on equipment, even for repairing stripped threads. It is sold at industrial supply stores and steel warehouse stores.

They also sell titanium, aluminum, stainless, bronze, and ceramic filled epoxies with similar superior physical properties. It is quite expensive but worth the price where you need the best.
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Its true we do use this on military vehicles. Its a item that I have in my tool box for emergencies and also in a repair kit (don't know how specific I can get without getting into trouble... )

But I have used this product multiple times (1121), and it works for everything.

I've used it on alot of repairs and saved alot of money and time doing it.

Even holds up under extremly hight torque, 10400 ft/lbs of torque to be exact... once again I'll see how specific I can get but basically fixed a broken U joint.

Eric
I don't know what type of trouble you're avoiding here but it would be interesting to know how the guy 'in the field' uses these products. If it's military type of trouble, I can understand, if it's advertising trouble, you're not selling the product, let the info fly out here! Fixing things that may at one time be tossed is always a good thing.

And this also: Thank you for your time overseas serving our country, God bless you and keep you safe!
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Its not trouble from advertising this product. Most of the information on the Bradley Fighting Vehicle is classified at a minimum level of secret but alot of it is top secret. So I'm going to get clarification from my S6 about some of the repairs and see what they say.

Should be able to post most of it, but never want to make that bad decision and ruin what I have going for me.

I'll get back on the repairs and the details (as much as possible), but I can honestly say now that the product will hold until you take it off (With grinder).

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Eric63M is correct we have them in our "BDAR" kits for when we need them in quick actions. I have used this stuff several times while in Iraq. I'm a 63B which is a Wheel Mechanic and no I dont work on wheels. It's everything that has wheels on it. It is way better then JB weld, but does set up slower. I had to use this when i put a hole in the oil pan of a HMMWV "Hummer", till we could get a new one.
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would certainly solve an issue for me as I have a 250 chev 6 head to 12 port and filling the gaps on the 6 port head had me puzzled..

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