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Old 11-29-2012, 08:37 PM
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Beware of bad stencil kits

These things should carry an expiration date like a gallon of milk. Just laid down a stencil for a 442 hood and had the worst experience I have probably ever had. First off when pulling the main white sheet off for the center square the stencil started breaking apart in tiny pieces that was the first sign, then it left globs of glue on the hood where it had to be sprayed. Had a real hard time getting that stuff off with wax and grease remover. Finally get it all off then proceed to spray the stripe. Next remove the stencil to clear the hood, and again all glue residue everywhere. Now I am scrubbing fresh basecoat with wax and grease remover, 2 hours later and had to go back and fix the fine stripe that was damaged from soooo much rubbing to remove this glue residue. A job that should have taken a few hours turns into an all day and night disaster all because the stencil was just too old. Beware...............

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Old 11-29-2012, 08:57 PM
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Where did you get the stencil? Just so I know not to go there. I had a similar situation happen on a Chevelle SS hood years ago. Now, if I use a stencil, I go to my local trim supplier, he has the equipment, give them a drawing of what I need with dimensions and have them cut cut it for me. Usually while I wait. It doesn't cost that much and the situation you have is eliminated.

For the last SS striping I did, I laid the stripes out by hand, it takes a little longer but the results are better, I can fix my corners or edges as I go and make sure all is well before I paint. It seems I need to fix stencils in one place or another most times anyway.

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Old 11-29-2012, 10:31 PM
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That sucks, I have only used a stencil kit once, on an Elcamino a number of years ago and it worked like friggin magic! Don't have any advice other than to hunt down a quality kit because they do work well.

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That sucks, I have had two calls in last month where brand new kits for chevelles were leaving glue all over the place both of them the company sent out new ones and said, we have never had this problem before.

The one in NC was so bad, I sent him to get some Goop to remove the glue.
The one in Texas had used a good base with activator, so with a little testing he was able to use medium urethane reducer with out damage to the base and it cleaned up pretty good on the hood.
The deck lid in both cases were not as bad and wax and grease remover with some elbow grease took care of the problem.
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Yes Barry it sucks, and stencil's for Chevelle's are so difficult to but on with the center rib in the hood. I've ended up cutting stencils in half and putting it on when I'm doing grafics on panels like hoods with contour lines...it works well, less air bubble leaving a more even let down of the stencil...I just tape up my cut line before painting.

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The stencil came from OPG in california, told the cust what happened and he told me that he would see what they could do. I already told him I can not take the chance of this happening when I put the stripes on the rest of the car, no way. See what is gonna happen now..... that is a good idea Ray about having them cut fresh.
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I'm sure, as Barry mentioned,...the company will offer a cheap heartless response..."we never had this problem before" and not take responsibility. What does a new stencil help you now?

Try a local pin striping or trim supplier see if they can help. It does work extremely well, if I'm not hand laying flames, I always use this method, the stencil is always made from fresh material and lays down easily in comparison to old stencils, edges are much crisper, material is more pliable and a lot less lifting...many of these places have programs for a lot of the older muscle cars...If not, just give them the exact dimensions and a diagram also helps, they will cut them for you...give it a try, you won't be disappointed.

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it's all in how it stored..
my year one kit was 12 years old when I used it. no issue, but was stored in a cool ,dry place..
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When I did the stripes on a Camaro I restored years ago I used 3M Fineline tape and worked from a graphic that showed ever dimension needed.

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Your right Vince, and fine line tape for SS stripes or most any square to the body stripe is the way to go...there are web-sites that outline the dimensions for most 60's and 70's muscle car stripes...where they go, SS versus RS versus RS/SS, does it go under the spoiler, over the spoiler, nowadays it's all out there. Not like in the real old days when you had to take measurements before you stripped the car down...getting information from GM was tough back then.


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Here are a couple of pics of the nightmare stencil hood......
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Looks good today....what's the problem...do I sound like a customer now...sorry. Just kidding, I know the crap you had to go through, a gain Kudos.

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Here are a couple of pics of the nightmare stencil hood......
Friggin awesome! I love those hoods!

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Friggin awesome! I love those hoods!

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AGREED!! Olds made some sweet machines. Nice Job
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Here are a couple of pics of the nightmare stencil hood......

nice...
like the blue..
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