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Old 12-08-2007, 03:50 PM
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Question Big Block Ford ~ 429 ~1971 Help With Identification Please

Hey Y'all,

I stumbled across a Valve Cover attached to a Big Block Ford .

How can I Identify this Motor to make sure its not just a Valve cover?

I have become Moderately efficient on Small Block Chevy's & some Big Block Chevy's But these Old Beasts I haven't a clue.

Any & All Information Is greatly appreciated.

Main "Q"s
~How to ID Block & Heads.
~How to Verify the Year & possibly the make & model.
~What it might be worth.
~And any other pertinent info.


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valve cover.......

Hi,im not positive,but it appears that there is a Ford engine attached to that valve cover !!!!!!
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A easy way to tell what type of engine it is by a quick glance is....The 429-460 has the thermostat housing on the intake and has a cast aluminum timing cover like the SB 289, 302, 351W engines. If it has a two barrel carb, then it is most likely a 429 maybe a 370. Ford never put a two barrel on the 460. If the intake is under the valve cover and it looks like it is apart of the head, it is a FE. If the thermostat housing is on the block and has a stamped steel timing cover, with a 460 bell housing, it is a 351M or a 400. A 429-460 engine will have the casting numbers on a pad on the side of the block on the passengers side back by the bell housing. A FE big block will have the casting number on a pad on the drivers side up by the front of the block. All 429-460's will have a 460 cast on the front of the block on the drivers side. Most FE engines will have a 352 cast on the front of the block on the drivers side, some won't have a number cast at all and some will have a backward 105.
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It is a 429/460 from the pics... the problem is that the 429 was only around a few years in cars and then became the 460 (which had always been in Lincolns) and they were available during the same years. They also share many casting #'s. The stamping on the dist..may help, but it probably has a V Lincoln code. I am afraid that you may have to pull the pan and get the crank # to determine which it is. Either one is a good start for a big engine. A 429 is easily converted to a 460, so that shouldn't be an obstacle.
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I'll take it!!! I'll take it!!!! Pretty please!!!! LOL



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Question

I was talking to a buddy of mine who said to look for #'s on the heads by the spark plugs

So I did its D3VE A1A

What dose this mean

Good bad indifferent?

It got too dark before I remembered to go look @ it ...again
I will try to look @ the Block & find #'s

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D3VE heads are 92 cc low performance run of the mill 70's 429-460 heads.
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if it was worth any real value this is what you would want to look for.
http://429mustangcougarinfo.50megs.com/components_3.htm
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The D3VE # illustrates my comments regarding shared casting #'s. Since it is a 1973 casting #, it becomes more likely that it may be a 460, although a crank # will be the only way to be positive. There is also a casting date,usually a 3 digit # like 3M14 whereas the first # is the calendar year (the casting # excludes 1963, but it could be 1983), the second letter is the month (Jan=A,Dec=M, I is not used) the last 1 or 2 numbers are the date. So the code given would be Dec 14, most likely 1973.....the A1A suffix indicates a change in the casting at some point, but the heads were used in 1973-74. If the heads haven't been changed out at some point it appears that it is a 460. the same casting #,date code on the block can tell you when it was cast. At the time, it was common for heads to be swapped when a valve job was performed instead of having the heads done, a time saver mainly, so the heads could have been installed on a earlier 429 when it needed a valve job. The block casting #s can narrow it down, and the crank # will of course confirm it.
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The VECI Decal identifies the engine as a 1971 429. The D3VE-A1A heads are 1973/ closed chamber low compression heads.

You need to find the block, intake manifold, water pump and any other visable (DIST-ALT) stampings for year of assembly. The stoke needs to be verified by piston travel.
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