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Mach1460 06-25-2012 05:01 PM

Black paint codes
Got a paint project coming up and im looking for that perfect black. Ive read that guys use the Buick grand national paint code 99k, ive also hear people using a ford paint code YC or UA ( i guess there the same color ford just changed part numbers) Im leaning toward the 99k because ive seen some very nice pics of cars with that color. I hear the ford YC/UA has a slight brown to it in direct sunlight. But ive also seen some very deep nice pics of that also. Looking for any input, thanks guys

MARTINSR 06-25-2012 06:12 PM

99K isn't a GM paint code, that is the part number for the black toner from Dupont. Blacks on cars from the factory come from different companies, not all of them have a nice black black. Not only that the carbon was taken out of the black back in the late 70's and there hasn't been a REAL true black since then realistically. Be it the paint that they have to produce for the manufacturer to use in the methods they use, or they simply don't have a very black black in their toner available. So the "black" that is found on many cars isn't black at all as you point out. It is extremely dark red, blue or brown. And believe me, paint a door with a red black on a car that has a brown black and it is VERY noticeable.

The "blacks" you find on these cars have a formula from other paint companies to match them, they will literally have five or six toners just like some metallic green or something.

That 99K is right off the mixing bank, and to tell you the truth I have no idea how black it is being I am not using it or even painting anymore using different products so I don't know. I know that the last time it really mattered to me I went around to a couple of paint stores and I bought straight black toner from them and check them against one an other and 99K wasn't very black at all, S-W kicked it's butt. I ended up using S-W and was very happy with it. But this was years ago and may be totally different now. You are going to have to do some serious home work or trust someone a lot to go with one without going out and finding out for yourself what is the blackest black you can shoot your car.


TucsonJay 06-25-2012 07:37 PM

After sorting through blacks over 40+ years... I only use House Of Kolor's black base.

gto_ron 06-25-2012 08:12 PM

I use Glasurit Deep Black and can't detect any other tints in their basecoat.


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