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View Poll Results: Should I use Blitz Black?
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Old 03-27-2010, 07:03 PM
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Heres the deal on Blitz Black aka Valspar Tractor and implement paint Low Gloss Black, it is what it is an affordable Alkyd Enamel paint that is easy to shoot and if you buy the hardener will last for several years.

Would I shoot it YES, have I, YES again first time was on a 66 Impala and just again today on an 82 Vette, yep thats right I painted a Vette with it and now the Vette crowd can cringe and cry foul, but heres the deal its the look I wanted, it was ultra cheap to do and it made a car that had a HORRIBLE paint job look very Sinister and very very sharp.

I will post pic's tommorrow as I have a few more hours until I can touch it and pull it out of the garage.

But heres the main deal on this type of paint

First your body work better be PERFECT, it will show EVERY ding and chip, scratch you missed

Second use the paint gun not the rattle can, that way you can use Naptha to thin it speeding up the drying time and you can add hardener which will make it more durable

But as you have seen everyone has their own opinion on Blitz Black, but heres the question ya got to ask yourself, how many of them that are sounding off on have actually sprayed a car with it

And all that said, I spent $20 for 2 quarts, $7 for a can of Naptha and $12 for hardener and $30 for a good respirator/filter that I wore while spraying it and my Vette is now painted for a measly $75 after tax and thats Hotrodding as now I have more cash to drop on go fast goodies

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I only got rattle cans for 2 reasons. One was just to see what it looked like, and two, if I liked it I was going to shoot the doorjambs before I but the Buick dash in. I'm going to call you today.
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shoot that crap on something then try to maintain it.
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Like I said earlier, opinions are vast, lots of people who have never used it have them, but they paint tractors with it for a reason if you use the hardener its a tough paint and stands up well and when it does need fixed its very cheap and easy to fix.


Heres a shot of the 82, it was sprayed with Valspar Tractor and implemment Low Gloss Black.

I used the same stuff on my 66 Impala about 5 years ago and it still looked the same last fall when I sold it.

The main thing to remember is USE THE HARDENER, it makes the paint more scratch resistant








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Like I said earlier, opinions are vast, lots of people who have never used it have them, but they paint tractors with it for a reason if you use the hardener its a tough paint and stands up well and when it does need fixed its very cheap and easy to fix.


Heres a shot of the 82, it was sprayed with Valspar Tractor and implemment Low Gloss Black.

I used the same stuff on my 66 Impala about 5 years ago and it still looked the same last fall when I sold it.

The main thing to remember is USE THE HARDENER, it makes the paint more scratch resistant

It's lot easier to make flat paint look nice when it's wet. Do you have any pictures of the car dry? Also, not trying to start a fight, but I think you'd really have to be a corvette fanatic to get upset about anyone doing anything to a 78-82 vette... Unless it's "Corvette Summer" ugly. That poor '73.
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It's lot easier to make flat paint look nice when it's wet. Do you have any pictures of the car dry? Also, not trying to start a fight, but I think you'd really have to be a corvette fanatic to get upset about anyone doing anything to a 78-82 vette... Unless it's "Corvette Summer" ugly. That poor '73.
Not yet its raining here and I jut finished the paint yesterday, also the paint is more of a satin the flat, but will throw up some pics when the rain passes,
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Not yet its raining here and I jut finished the paint yesterday, also the paint is more of a satin the flat, but will throw up some pics when the rain passes,
Sweet, thanks.
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There are pros and cons for almost any paint you can think of. When it comes to JDBB you'll usually find most professional painters will tell you not to use it. On many levels they're right. There are a lot of alternatives that will give you the same look but none of them are as inexpensive as JDBB.

I shot the frame of my deuce using Hot Rod Flatz satin black and although it turned out OK I wasn't happy with how it sprayed. When it came to the firewall I decided to experiment with JDBB. I figured that if I don't like it sanding it all off a firewall will be easier than a larger surface so it was a good canditate for a JDBB experiment.

All that said, I liked the way JDBB sprayed and it certainly was cheap enough. As far as color and sheen it matched the Hot Rod Flatz exactly. However, only time will tell if this experiment will work or if it was a mistake. At least then I'll be able to speak with experience when it comes to using JDBB.



Some things to think about....when considering using JDBB just understand that it is an enamel and not a urethane so even if you use the hardener it won't be as durable, but it will be less expensive. It will also require more work if you ever want to change it. Repainting something that is coated with JDBB WILL require you to sand the JDBB off first. There may be a sealer out there that will work over JDBB but I'm not aware of one that has been proven to be fool proof, so just be warned.

So basically its a trade-off. Cost vs. durability and ease of re-coating. I'm not recommending JDBB by any stretch of the imagination, just do your research so you can make an informed decision.

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I appreciate the detailed response. Perhaps I should make my immediate situation more clear. My project 81 Elco is still wearing the factory metallac silver. While I have worked on it considerably, it is still a ways from fireing off. Having said that, I'm in the middle of an interior color change, and now would be the perfect time to spray the jambs, A pillars, and the area of the lower cowl. After researching JDBB, and reading these responses, I've decided to leave the colors as is for the time being and concentrate on getting the thing running and legal. I'll decide then what to do color wise, but I feel any pro painter would advise that it's easier to keep the original color. I had quite a bit of encouragement from deadbodyman to not be afraid to try, but at the end of the day I think I'll postpone a color change for the time being.
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Heres a couple shot of it dry, also hood is still gloss black havent painted that yet (looking for an L88 style hood )
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Heres a couple shot of it dry, also hood is still gloss black havent painted that yet (looking for an L88 style hood )
Looks pretty damn good. I have to admit that it looks a lot better than I imagined. Kudos.
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AAAHHHHH,Now I get the name "rat vette" One question: if it got rained on so soon after it was painted ,didnt it get water spots all over it?
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AAAHHHHH,Now I get the name "rat vette" One question: if it got rained on so soon after it was painted ,didnt it get water spots all over it?
No I had painted it the day before and had it under heat lamps overnight so the paint was pretty well dry by time I pulled it out the next afternoon,

the few I did see wiped right off with soap and water
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RattVette,
Hi. Just wondering how your Blitz Black is holding up on your vette?
Any pros or cons that you can pass along?
Not sure yet if I'll be using the BB or a single stage urethane on my stang for the satin look. Depends on where I'll be able to paint it.
Thanks.
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