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just plain john 03-22-2010 05:43 PM

Blitz Black part deaux
 
Hello all, new member here and this is my first post. I was researching JDBB and stumbled across this site. There is a 29 page thread about Blitz Black that I read, and I've searced this site, but haven't seen the answer I was looking for so I'll ask for opinions here. Who has had BB on their car for a long enough to have an opinion of it's durability? Does it streak over time, or after washing? Would you do it again? Is it easy to fix if scratched? What should i do/not do application wise? Please please oh pretty please somebody chime in.

Jon 03-22-2010 07:02 PM

This wiki article may be helpful to you: John Deere Blitz Black paint.

just plain john 03-22-2010 07:36 PM

Thanks for the link Jon, but that's the one that got me here in the first place. I read that long thread, but I really didn't see where there was a real consensus. Some say good, some say bad. I was hoping to get a real world evaluation from someone who has done it and lived with it for a while, maybe what they would do differently, if anything. I will review that thread closer though.

just plain john 03-23-2010 04:32 AM

Bump, any real world long term results out there?

shine 03-23-2010 05:10 AM

cheap tractor paint belongs on tractors. i'd leave a car rusty before putting that junk on it.
it will look like **** in a shot time . you cant maintain it. and you can not put anything else over it.

deadbodyman 03-23-2010 05:50 AM

What are you painting and why do you want to use it? I havent used it so I dont have an opinion good or bad,but I can help you find a good black paint at low cost that does hold up for 10yrs..or so..

da34guy 03-23-2010 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shine
cheap tractor paint belongs on tractors. i'd leave a car rusty before putting that junk on it.
it will look like **** in a shot time . you cant maintain it. and you can not put anything else over it.

X 2, It's junk.

matt167 03-23-2010 07:23 AM

hotrod flatz black is about the same cost as Blitz Black and looks about the same but it comes in single stage urethane, and I think it can be had in a BC/CC using a flattened clear

deadbodyman 03-23-2010 07:33 AM

agreed,urethane is what you want...same amount of prep work lasts much longer..than synthetic or straight enamels,which fade in a year or two....at the very least use a catalyzed acrylic enamel for a car...

just plain john 03-23-2010 07:00 PM

OK, here's the deal. I'm working on my first build, an 81 El Camino with an 87 GN drivetrain. Although I'm 52, the stars have never aligned for me to try this until now. I started out wanting to do a low buck deal, then I got a case of the 'I might as wells". Suffice to say the interior is gutted, and the front clip is off, so now would be a good time to paint the jambs and the lower cowl area before my new interior pieces go in. I have zero painting experience, but first timers seem to have reasonable success with JDBB. While I have considerable expenses so far, I fully plan to drive it regularly and I don't want to worry about a scratch so I'm not really interested in a high dollar finish. I have no booth nor the knowledge to apply a urethane, but I don't want to spend $4000+ on professional paint that is sure to be scratched no matter how hard I try to avoid it. JDBB can be touched up with a rattlecan, or so I hear. I'm after the traditional primer look. I wanted to try paint myself, just because. I read an old thread from 2004 about it, but I couldn't get a feel for approval or not. I've read about hot rod flatz, however I'm not very confident in my abilities to lay down a bc/cc.

OLNOLAN 03-23-2010 07:32 PM

Shoot It
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by just plain john
OK, here's the deal. I'm working on my first build, an 81 El Camino with an 87 GN drivetrain. Although I'm 52, the stars have never aligned for me to try this until now. I started out wanting to do a low buck deal, then I got a case of the 'I might as wells". Suffice to say the interior is gutted, and the front clip is off, so now would be a good time to paint the jambs and the lower cowl area before my new interior pieces go in. I have zero painting experience, but first timers seem to have reasonable success with JDBB. While I have considerable expenses so far, I fully plan to drive it regularly and I don't want to worry about a scratch so I'm not really interested in a high dollar finish. I have no booth nor the knowledge to apply a urethane, but I don't want to spend $4000+ on professional paint that is sure to be scratched no matter how hard I try to avoid it. JDBB can be touched up with a rattlecan, or so I hear. I'm after the traditional primer look. I wanted to try paint myself, just because. I read an old thread from 2004 about it, but I couldn't get a feel for approval or not. I've read about hot rod flatz, however I'm not very confident in my abilities to lay down a bc/cc.

Anything is better than rust, Shoot It, Get some feel for a spray gun. Save $4,000 for stuff that makes it faster. When it gets crappy looking, sand it down and shoot it again. Thats Hotrodding! Ain't skeered, just do it! :thumbup: olnolan

deadbodyman 03-24-2010 06:02 AM

Hey John. My first paint job was centari acrylic enamel without hardner It was very easy to apply and I painted it in my garage,It looked so good the guys at the body shop that I goferd for didnt believe I painted it myself so they had me paint one of their cars....Ive been painting professionally ever since ,its 35yrs later.Painting is not that hard I was a dumb 15yr old drop out so believe me you can do it,it the easiest part of a resto.with all the brands and types of paint its easy to get confused ,Thats normal....The actual spraying is pretty much the same ,the differences are the ingredients you mix in before you paint....repairing your work should be done with your gun so dont worry using a rattle can Theres a big difference plus you'll already have the gun so you wont want to use a can....I've helped quite a few guys do their first paint job and the one thing they ALL have in common is they over think and worry themselves to death.Thats also normal its just been so long ago I forget how I worried...You'll have a million questions before you start.if you want to PM me I can give you some members names to contact that had the same concerns.A few phone calls and I'll have you painting like a pro.with about 100.00 worth of paint and like I tell everyone else you'll have enough paint left over to redo the whole car so dont worry ,theres nothing to it....But you'll be much happier if you use a little better paint thats made just for cars....saving 50.00 is nothing compared to all the prep time it takes to do a nice job ....

just plain john 03-24-2010 03:53 PM

PM sent, deadbodyman

just plain john 03-27-2010 02:30 PM

Just a quick update.....I went to the local JD dealer and got a couple of rattle cans of BB and 1 of primer. I read in that post I mentioned thatyou could shoot it over existing paint with no primer, so I scuffed an old fender with a grey scotchbrite pad and wiprd it down with acetone. I sprayed it, waited 10 minutes and layed on a wet coat. Today, 5 days later, I tried running my thumbnail and it scratched (maybe marred is a better word) with moderate pressure. I was disappointed and am now reconsidering using it.

deadbodyman 03-27-2010 02:53 PM

Rattle cans????? I didnt know you wereconcidering that...
You ready to do a real paint job now???
You can borrow my gun I was telling you about.
nothing lost.
Call your local paint store and ask how much a gallon of Centari acrylic enamel is(no hardner)
then ask about a gallon of Nason Ful-thane with hardner compare the price and choose which one you want to use.
The Ful-thane will last years longer you'll get about two yrs out of centari.before it fades.


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