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Old 10-04-2004, 04:20 PM
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BMW M3 vs 73 nova, opinion needed.

i have had a recent discussion with someone who thinks a 2003 BMW M3 will kill my car in 1/4 mile. my car's never been on the track... so someone help me out here. i have both specs.

2003 BMW M3
weight: 3415lbs
Power @ rpm, hp 333 @ 7900
Torque @ rpm, lb-ft. 262 @ 4900
Acceleration, 0-60 mph , sec. 4.8
Top speed, mph 155

73 Nova, 357

9.5 compression, comp cams XE268, 2.02/1.6 heads with screw studs and guidplates with full roller rockers. edelbrock 4bbl 600cfm recalibrated, Edelbrock RPM AIRGAP manifold
2.5'' exhaust with H pipe and Airflow 1 mufflers. desktop dyno rated this at 390hp and 302 tq with open headers. but being that desktop dyno doesnt that into account the airgap manifold and the rollerrockers i hear that this estimate with the "open exhaust" is close. transmission is a TH-350 with stage II shift kit running B&M trans shift improver fluid. 3.73 posi.

now being that the nova is lighter and definatly has more HP and Tq... isnt it impossible for the BMW M3 to win in 1/4 mile? unless im totally crazy..

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Old 10-04-2004, 04:41 PM
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It would be a good race. He'll definitely get you off the line.
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Old 10-04-2004, 04:44 PM
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2003 M3 runs a stock 13.2 at about 107mph.

Only one way to know for sure whos right
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Old 10-04-2004, 05:19 PM
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damn... how would he get me off the line? he weighs more and has less torque...
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Old 10-04-2004, 05:22 PM
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How do you figure your Nova is lighter? Have you scaled it?
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Old 10-04-2004, 05:33 PM
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1973 nova with 350 and auto trans is 3250lbs, i took about the bench seat and replaced with 98 firebird type bucket. took off about 50 lbs, not to mention the interior is mostly gutted at the moment for replacement
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Old 10-04-2004, 06:10 PM
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Power and weight aren't the only factors. Have to take into account rear gears, transmission gears, where your powerband is vs. where an M3's powerband is etc.

Like I said, only one true way to find out. You can argue and ponder numbers all you like. The only true answer will be found on the track.

Also, dont waste your money on the B&M fluid. Its pretty much Type F with a blue dye in it. If your going to spend that sort of money on fluid goto synthetic.
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Power and weight aren't the only factors. Have to take into account rear gears, transmission gears, where your powerband is vs. where an M3's powerband is etc.
and traction.
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You should be turning low to mid 13s, so it would be a toss up.

Who's the better driver?
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And unless this person you are arguing with actually OWNS an M3 I'd tell him to take a hike lol. Just tell him there are a hundred exotics that would beat your car but he's not ever going to own any of em .
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Old 10-04-2004, 09:30 PM
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I don't know siggy I would be buying a nitrous kit and telling the kid with the beamer that I've got $400 that says my Nova can beat you.
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Well if that were the case I'd go buy any old 300 dollar beater car, slap a 300 or 400 shot of nitrous on it and go bet the guy pink slips lol.
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Old 10-04-2004, 10:33 PM
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Sounds like a job for my 205,000 mile accord.
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