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Old 10-26-2008, 05:52 PM
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body filler chipping

Hope you guys can help I have filled the joint between the rocker and the 1/4 panel and when sanding, and almost to a feather edge I noticed that the edge didn't look right so I pecked on the edge with a scraper and it chipped off, so I tried just scraping and a lot of it would just chip off. I had sanded the metal with 80 grit paper before I started and I used evercoat rage gold. Now my question, should it have chipped off like that, did I use the wrong grit paper, could the filler been mixed wrong (I mixed per the instructions) My shop temp. was about 65 deg. was that too cold? Maybe I did something that I should not have done or didn't do something that I should have, any suggestions/help info that any of you guys can give me would be appreciated. Also should I clean all the rest off even if it appears to be bonded? Thanks for your help. BILL

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The metal temp could have been too cold, the metal not clean, it wasn't actually roughed up right in that spot with 80. Those are some of the reasons that could do it.

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Yeah like brian said could be one of several reason. Did you mix in a decent amount of hardener, and was it mixed well. If the filler is still soft when you sand, it won't feather and will just tear away. Same goes for the other extreme, if you add way too much hardener it could make it more brittle. You do have a pretty good latitude on how much hardener you can add though. And was it clean, and you didn't apply it over any paint (some can be, but most are not recommended over paint, and some old tech unactivated paint can just continue chipping away at the edge and when you sand not want to feather edge) Filler will chip if its chisled or struck, but just a light scraping like it sounds like you did, shouldn't really have it chipping off.
If I do apply over metal, I like to go course and grind where I will be applying filler, as that was the way I was taught and really didn't get away from it. But more often I will sand and apply epoxy filler first. But sanding with 80 should have worked for adhesion.
Another thing is that seam is often brazed. Body filler may not like sticking to the brazing, and it should be removed or epoxy primer applyed over it first. But really, if the brazing was not removed and then that seam welded up solid, your body filler won't last that long anyways before it cracks in the seam area. The factory often brazes the seam, and then applys a flexable seam sealer. If you intend to fill the seam, it needs to be welded solid, if you haven't.
Hard to say if it was too cold. The metal temp (was the metal warm?) and cleanliness is more important then shop temp.
It could even possibly be the can of filler itself or the tube of hardener went bad, it can happen.

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Body filler chiping

Much thanks to you guys for your help, from what you all have said I tend to think that I did not roughen ths surface enough, I willgo back and try that first. THANKS AGAIN BILL
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