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badd5tt6 03-20-2012 07:19 PM

Body swap ?'s 67-72 Longhorn on 2001 Chevy 4x4
 
I am new to the hole body swap and welding area but have patience and time to get'r done. Do to having no second helper i am building a rolling jack out of wood 4x4's to lift the cab 1ft (or bed) over the frame.

My questions are

Do i just need to make new tabs for the bolts to line up and how buff do they need to be as i only have used a wirefeed. I have built car trailers with my wirefeed and all work great so i'm thinking wirefeed should be ok for this as well ?

My frame on my 2001 chevy 2500HD is 44inch wide, wheel base is 133inch. I have no clue yet on the width of a longhorn frame but am guessing i wont be as luck to get the frame, wheelbase and length of truck to all match up but two out of three isn't to bad. is the longhorn frame being narrow going to affect any thing else other than tabs for bolts the cab and bed on ?

I also wanted to use as much of the originol equipment as possible like the pedal (gas/brake) assembly, complete dash or custom all the dash parts with the longhorn dash like a/c, heater core, airbags, exc.. I am guessing i will need to make my own firewall but not really sure on how yet ???

I'm sure i will have more questions but this is probly enough for the moment, any help would be great, Thanx

against all odds 03-31-2012 02:09 PM

i don't know much about welding---and in fact can only stick weld in the 4 basic positions, but i don't like wire-feed. Probably because i had too many bad experiences with them. MIG is fine though. But just wire-feed i don't like. This is just my opinion; You should get more opinions from more experienced welders than me.


2) http://www.chuckschevytruckpages.com/bodyswaps.html

Check the rest of the site as well.

Old Fool 03-31-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by against all odds
i don't know much about welding---and in fact can only stick weld in the 4 basic positions, but i don't like wire-feed. Probably because i had too many bad experiences with them. MIG is fine though. But just wire-feed i don't like. This is just my opinion; You should get more opinions from more experienced welders than me.


2) http://www.chuckschevytruckpages.com/bodyswaps.html

Check the rest of the site as well.

Please explain how wire feed is not to your liking and MIG is.

badd5tt6 03-31-2012 03:47 PM

Not sure why he doesn't like Mig but i have done some prity good trailers with my wirefeed and have put full ton trucks, vans, exc. on them with no issues at all and i am a newbie to welding. Of course trailers are a complete difrent story to fabbing motor mounts and making sure a frame is perfectly shortend and even those kinda things are what i'm not sure about as far as useing a wirefeed as opposed to stick. If filling in big gaps i could see were stick could be a better fit to push in more but as far as a good beed either will do the trick. I preffer wire because every thing is together and is less of a head ache plus i dont like having a tank of some thing that could blow my house up, lol. But that's just me, I'm sure Tig has it's benefits i just dont know enough about welding yet to say....


As far as my project goes it is still just sitting there right now with no body on it and in perfect running condition (wah, sad , boo, cry, :( ) I just need a few pointers.

badd5tt6 03-31-2012 03:55 PM

Also found out that the Longhorn is the same length and has the same wheel base just dont know about the width of a Longhorn frame. Any body got any clue ? I'm guessing if there the same then i should be able to plop this swap right on top except for the firewall and tranny channel on the cab (gonna need those from the 2001 cab for my pedals and such) Should i just cut them out now ? or lighn stuff up first ?

against all odds 04-01-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Fool
Please explain how wire feed is not to your liking and MIG is.


Ok, maybe it was just a bad experience with me(i didn't know what the heck i was doing). And, after more research it appears that wire can be good. Also, NHRA only accepts mig or tig on the cage, so i figured mig was higher quality.

But yeah wire is ok, i just prefer mig.

Old Fool 04-01-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by against all odds
Ok, maybe it was just a bad experience with me(i didn't know what the heck i was doing). And, after more research it appears that wire can be good. Also, NHRA only accepts mig or tig on the cage, so i figured mig was higher quality.

But yeah wire is ok, i just prefer mig.

Unless you are talking about some welding method I am not aware of you are saying you don't like wire but like mig, which generically, when speaking about welding are the same thing.

Yes there is other applications of wire feed welding but I really doubt any hotrodders are using it.

Can you describe what method of welding it is that you refer to as wire? Thanks.

poncho62 04-25-2012 05:37 PM

Maybe he is talking about flux core wire as opposed to MIG

sparkydog 04-25-2012 06:31 PM

Something you might consider when you do your body swap is to graft the floor pan of the newer truck into the cab of the older truck. The advantage is that you can leave all of the new truck body brackets on the new frame. It also gives you the option of getting some body drop (or raise) by changing the height where the new floor gets welded in relative to the old cab.

badd5tt6 04-26-2012 12:23 PM

Good idea
 
i was planning on this already but wasn't sure how much of it i would use.
I like the idea of being able to manipulate the floor. Originoly i was just gonna use the firewall and then the tranny tunnel as a bolt down peice for easy access down the road.

Would love to save the dash as well but dont wanna get to cocky. I suppose i should definetly keep the cab now (was tossing around the idea of selling it)
It will be a nice newer floor pan with bolt set up for newer seats as well so that is a plus as too.


Thanx for the insite.....

OneMoreTime 04-27-2012 02:57 PM

several years ago I put a 57 chev cab on a 72 chev 3/4 frame and found it best to just make new mounts on the frame to match the mounting locations on the body..We saved all the steering column, dash and floor pan from the 57 cab and then it was a matter of hooking up wiring and the steering, brakes and clutch and away we went..worked out well for the use we had in mind..gotta say as weel we also saved the radiator support and fenders as well..

Sam

badd5tt6 04-27-2012 06:25 PM

some thing to think about.
 
What would you say was the hardest part of your build?

My motor is huge!!!! and so is the Tranny... Was keeping the firewall because of this, and am reversing the dash as you stated you kept the older dash and i want the newer dash, and seats. want it newer on inside (gonna have to fab on the dash a bit).

Still waiting on a Plasma cutter..........

CQNRQY 04-27-2012 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badd5tt6
What would you say was the hardest part of your build?

My motor is huge!!!! and so is the Tranny... Was keeping the firewall because of this, and am reversing the dash as you stated you kept the older dash and i want the newer dash, and seats. want it newer on inside (gonna have to fab on the dash a bit).

Still waiting on a Plasma cutter..........

Sounds like an interesting project.
I put a 53 Interenational pickup onto a 1980s frame some years back
and loved the final result.
Lots to consider. If I was you Id make a list of what you want.
Sounds to me you want an old appearing truck with todays comforts.
If thats the case strip the new truck down. Take the old cab and slip it over the newer frame. You maybe surprised how well it will fit with some mount ajustments. If that works just put all the works from the cab into the old cab.
As far as welding goes id use a mig with gas anyday (forget flux core wire feed mig as far as any stuctural stuff) Stick welding works good for stuctural if you cant afford a good mig with gas.
Theres lots for good people with good advice on this forum just keep asking questions Have fun..dont give up. Good luck

tothetower 04-29-2012 05:41 PM

interesting..
 
hey guys hows it going. new to the forum here. @badd5tt6, can you post pictures of the newer rolling chassis you plan on mounting the old body to?
im very interested in this project because i plan on mounting my 69 c-10 on a 2011 2500 hd with the 6.6l duramax/allison 1000 powertrain.. just picked up my longhorn bedsides today to make the wheelbases match up on the old body.. now all i need is the 2011 chassis haha

badd5tt6 06-02-2012 08:53 PM

Still waiting to sell 2001 cab
 
I only got a decent size 1 car garage (LOL) and need to get rid of the 2001 Cab. I decided to not use the 2001 cab floor and firewall and will be mocking up new mounts any way i look at it so figured why do all that extra work. My 1968 cab is in good condition and the floor wont need replacment. I will be taking tons of pictures threw out this project and will be posting up as much info as possible once i dig into it again. It's hard to say any thing with the cab still sitting on it but i have started restoring the frame (to the metal) and did actually find a small amount of rust were the bed bolts onto the frame.
Next week i should be make the measurements for the 68 cab as far as were the front clip meets the cab, untill then.


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