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Old 06-28-2012, 11:45 PM
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bonehead stunt....reduced primer twice

I primed a car that was down to pretty much bare metal using kustom shop dtm epoxy ( which I use regularly and like). I came back a couple of days later and started sanding. Most of the car sanded nicely. I then cme to a part where the primer started balling under the sand paper. I just figured out tonight when I mixed the second batch of prime I used what was left in the catalyst jar and then grabbed one of the other two identical looking quart cans and made my 2 to 1 mix. Well damn the second jar was reducer and instead and instead of a 2 to 1 mix I probably ended up with 4:1:1 mix resulting in soft primer. I removed most all of it with reducer, what a mess. I believe I got most of it and I figure I was going to mix another batch and put another coat of properly mixed prime. If any got missed will this be a problem or will the presence of catalyst eventually harden it. Has anyone ever done this before?

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Old 06-29-2012, 03:27 AM
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Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. I mixed up a gun full of epoxy, ate lunch while it "kicked" for 30 minutes. I came out to the shop, reduced it and started to prime the car. I had one side done before I realized it was running off behind me like Niagra Falls. I had reduced it twice. I would venture to guess every painter on here could tell a similar story. It sure is agravating though. you have my sympathy. Gooey epoxy is a ***** to get off.

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If it has a mix ratio we'll screw it up somehow...The day they come up with a fool proof mix is the day I'll prove them wrong....
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Old 06-29-2012, 06:36 AM
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You and me both DBM. I don't know of anything worse to get back off though than gooey epoxy primer. Specially when it was sprayed as the sealer on top of finished body and prep work. Benchracer sure has my sympathy.
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When using epoxy as a surfacer or DTM it shouldn't be reduced. I know you are talking about a mistake, but it sounds like you also intentionally reduced it.
http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/...070706KEPP.pdf
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We all push the limits when painting especially alone at the end of a long day!! and make mistakes once and a while LOL! especialy when manufacturers make the cans ( hardner, reducer etc look exactly alike) and your mixing in a 5 minute window!!! LOL

How many of you Through the years have ever started to walk into the booth and hesitate, wondering " Man Did I Just Mix That Wrong" and walk back to your mixing table to check! And pour out what you just mixed because you dont want to take the chance! Its hapened to me a few times over the years!LOL

I always order a little extra materials because of this! And accidental spills! Anyone ever have freshly mixed paint cup just jump out of your hands Or decide to turn itself over on the mixing table! How about dripping a few drops of coffee into your paint cup LOL We all learn from these little mistakes I smoke and have had ashes fall into my mix in the past!LOL We make goofs and hopefully learn from them!!!! Over the last 45 years Ive made a lot!!!!! I still smoke but I am more careful these days !

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How many of you Through the years have ever started to walk into the booth and hesitate, wondering " Man Did I Just Mix That Wrong" and walk back to your mixing table to check! And pour out what you just mixed because you dont want to take the chance! Its hapened to me a few times over the years!LOL


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Oh God I thought I was the only guy OCD enough to do that!

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Brian: whats OCD stand for LOL

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Chris, I think it stands for "Other Chronic Dummy" doesn't it?

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Chris, I think it stands for "Other Chronic Dummy" doesn't it?

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Im guessing all kinds of things < but my mind keeps heading to the obscene LOL its more fun

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LOL. Just what we needed. A serious answer to a silly question..........

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That was too obvious!LOL
Its more fun guessing "Old disoriented codger" was my first guess LOL Paint fumes take their toll over the years

Years ago I was pulled over by a cop who swore he smelled alcohol in the car it was about 3 am and he tested me and gave me a breathalyzer but I passed! He searched the car. I told him I was shooting lacquer all day till late at night ( doing lace scallops on a 67 vet) He was really pissed and let me go! But I shouldn't have been driving I was a little "disoriented" from all the fumes I inhaled LOL

What kind of goofs have some of the other painters on here done or seen Over the years, I'd be interested,, It might be fun to read some!





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thanx guys. got it cleaned up and reprimed. what a mess. i got most of it off by getting a couple gallons of thinner and my harbor freight solvent gun and sprayed the thinner on and let it drip on the ground. Lesson learned. Read the freakin label. Didnt intentionally reduce, just grabbed a can that I thought was catalyst and it was reducer.
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I would think no less of a man who wrapped every can of hardener he got in masking tape with HARDENER written with a felt pen over and over around the can.

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