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Boxing frame later tonight have a question.

I will be boxing the frame on the "A" tonight and have the plates scribed and cut perfectly..
I will be setting the plates in about 3/8" to run brake lines ect. and create a "I" beam affect for strength

The plates are 10ga 6' long so there will only be 2 seams

How do you guys hold the plates in their place while welding?
I was thinking of cutting a couple pieces of 1"X2" and welding them to the inside of the frame to rest the plate on, I could also clamp down on those areas to help keep straight.. But I will not be able to weld the 1X2 to the plate once in place, will that be okay?... What do you guys think?

Should I also chamfer the edges to 45 deg. even though it is going to be a fillet weld?

Thank you for your help!
Jay

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Your plan sounds OK to me. I would not go to the trouble to bevel the edge. To keep from warping the rails when I boxed mine I did not weld all at once. I tacked the boxing plate in and I jumped from to to bottom and front to back welding one inch at a time about 6 inches apart. After cooling I repeated the proceedure. This was done over and over with plenty of cooling time until I had it welded continously. My frame never racked or warped any.
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Your plan sounds OK to me. I would not go to the trouble to bevel the edge. To keep from warping the rails when I boxed mine I did not weld all at once. I tacked the boxing plate in and I jumped from to to bottom and front to back welding one inch at a time about 6 inches apart. After cooling I repeated the proceedure. This was done over and over with plenty of cooling time until I had it welded continously. My frame never racked or warped any.


Henry to the rescue.. again!... Thanks.
How did you hold the plate exactly in the frame where you wanted it with out letting it fall completely inside until it was tacked?

I had the same thoughts about that welding technique, it's nice to have it confirmed by a guy who knows his stuff!
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I did not set mine in, I did it flush. But your idea on welding in some stop pieces to support it at the right inset position sounds like a good idea to me. When you get through they will be hid inside of the frame and will not hurt a thing.
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I did not set mine in, I did it flush. But your idea on welding in some stop pieces to support it at the right inset position sounds like a good idea to me. When you get through they will be hid inside of the frame and will not hurt a thing.

Thats what I was hoping to hear!
Thanks for such a fast response!
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Good luck with it and have fun!
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boxing plates

use a magnet to hold in position
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I cut the tubing as I said, and it worked great!
I cut 5 pieces and rested the plate on them and used 5 C-clamps on top of each to clamp it to my jig..

I put 1 piece of tubing just in front of the bend in the frame and 1 piece just behind the bend and tightened the clamps..
The plate perfectly follows the curve of the frame!

I felt like Mcgiver from the 80's tv show! LOL

Thanks again!
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A magnet would not have worked for me...
But thanks any way
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Way to go! Glad it worked out for ya.
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boxing frame

another thought. When you recessing your plates into your frame rails, you could also use a spacer tacked on the outside of your boxing plate and that one tacked to another piece of whatever, wider than your rail, to keep your plate from going too far into the rails, and when it is all tacked in place, remove them to reuse on the other side. By using this method, you would not have any pieces inside your rails, that may break off and remain in your frame rails to cause rattles in the future. Just a thought.
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another thought. When you recessing your plates into your frame rails, you could also use a spacer tacked on the outside of your boxing plate and that one tacked to another piece of whatever, wider than your rail, to keep your plate from going too far into the rails, and when it is all tacked in place, remove them to reuse on the other side. By using this method, you would not have any pieces inside your rails, that may break off and remain in your frame rails to cause rattles in the future. Just a thought.
Good idea....Thank you!
But their already in there.... I welded those puppies solid on 2 sides, if they fall off.....I have MUCH bigger problems! LOL

I will keep that in mind for the next time I do something similar.
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frame boxing

I welded those flat 1/4" nuts (for lack of the proper term) to the boxing plates where I was going to place line clamps, then used the threaded holes to hold pieces of angle iron to align the plates. Bill
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Whatever works. that is a good idea also. Good luck with the projects.
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I'm boxing my 66 Chev Truck Frame

I'm boxing my frame are you grinding the welds smooth? I am for a clean look.

When you get her done post some pics on this same thread so we can all take a look.
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