[klock]

Dan,
Your software didn't edit my post, I wrote it like that!
I have a small sense of decorum, twisted as it might be.

Sorry for the inconvenience. Kurt

[DanTwoLakes]

Come to think of it, I don't know if the software would have caught "********", so let's see.

[DanTwoLakes]

Nope, it didn't catch it, so I'll go back and edit it out.

[klock]

Well, now that I know that, try this one $#@^&&&*&^%$%#$%......just kidding! Have a good weekend. K

[pmeisel]

Some of the boaters i know use a material called Top Gun -- similar to Sunbrella but tougher.

[klock]

I think the soft touch is what i was looking for. Thanks K

[57Fairlane]

Yup, 100% it is, done front covers for vehicles being towed, etc. with it, its the best material thats soft back Ive seen.
Top gun is good, Polyester is the strongest, but outdated as its vat dyed which makes it to rigid and not the nicest to look at, handle,color can flake, etc. I mainly use Top Notch now, polyster as well but solution dyed, so it looks, feels, breaths like sunbrella, but isn't crap like sunbrella (fades, STRECHES, looses waterproofing after a few years, is weak, etc,etc, etc).

[DanTwoLakes]

Originally Posted by pmeisel

Some of the boaters i know use a material called Top Gun -- similar to Sunbrella but tougher.

Top Gun is an inexpensive 100% polyester fabric, but it is not breathable. For things that are going to be enclosed for a length of time, especially things that may be wet when put away, this may create a problem, and that is why I suggested woven (breathable) fabrics like woven polyester and woven acrylic. Top Notch is woven polyester, which is the equivalent of woven acrylic but less expensive. The Odyssey Soft Touch was the perfect combination of breathable acrylic fabric and soft backing. I had never heard of the Odyssey before, so I learned something today also.

BTW, 57 fairlane, If you had a problem with Sunbrella, it was not true Sunbrella. Sunbrella is a woven acrylic, and does not lose it's color. I recently repaired a bimini top that was 10 years old. I ordered the original Sunbrella fabric and it matched the 10 year old fabric perfectly. The original top was perfect in every way except for mouse holes. I don't know of many fabrics of any kind that are in that good of shape after 10 years.

[57Fairlane]

Acually, Top Notch is more expensive for me then sunbrella, by a few dollars a yard. Ya, sunbrella does hold its color good, now that I think about it, But I still won't use it for the other reasons, "bagging" out being one of the biggest, make sure you use adjustable poles with sunbrella. A nice snug cover will be loosy after a year. Fake sunbrella? is there such a thing?

[DanTwoLakes]

Originally Posted by klock

Well, now that I know that, try this one $#@^&&&*&^%$%#$%......just kidding! Have a good weekend. K

Dude: You have a warped sense of humor, but you are humorous nonetheless. Wrapped a little tightly, but humorous. I bet you never expected all this hullabaloo over your original post, did you?

[DanTwoLakes]

Originally Posted by 57Fairlane

Acually, Top Notch is more expensive for me then sunbrella, by a few dollars a yard. Ya, sunbrella does hold its color good, now that I think about it, But I still won't use it for the other reasons, "bagging" out being one of the biggest, make sure you use adjustable poles with sunbrella. A nice snug cover will be loosy after a year. Fake sunbrella? is there such a thing?

I agree that Sunbrella bags like you say, that's why I have switched to Top Notch which is the same price for me as Sunbrella anyway. The only problems with Top Notch are its limited color selection, and it needs to be cut with an Engle hot knife to stop the raw edges from fraying. Sunbrella has 100's of colors, patterns, and weaves. Sunbrella is solution dyed woven acrylic, and it's been around forever, so I'm sure there are pretenders out there that are lesser quality.

[klock]

Originally Posted by DanTwoLakes

Dude: You have a warped sense of humor, but you are humorous nonetheless. Wrapped a little tightly, but humorous. I bet you never expected all this hullabaloo over your original post, did you?

1. Definitely warped ( a product of my vocation)
2. Wrapped tight ain't even close!
3. No