Okay, so I finally buy this disc brake conversion kit for my 61 Apache C-10 Fleet and take it to my mechanic. He tells me that the only thing it doesn't come with is the hard brake lines and I need these to go 2 to the front and one to the back. I call the company that I purchased the kit from and they don't provide the lines in the kit. Now, isn't that why you call something a "kit?" Because everything is provided for you. So, now I have to find steel hard lines bent for my year. Does anyone have any pointers? I've only found one place in Ontario, but they need the old brake lines to make a pattern. Thanks, Jenn <img src="graemlins/boxing.gif" border="0" alt="[boxing]" />
09-18-2002 07:46 PM
You can buy different lengths of the line at any auto parts store. It bends very easily by hand so you can route it wherever you want on the car frame. Bolt it down with loop style clips. You may luck out and be able to use an off-the-shelf length of tubing but you will likely need to cut the tubing to the proper length and add a new flare on the end. DO NOT do this with a standard single flaring tool. With the money you save by doing the job yourself, buy a double flare tool at the parts store. Likely will save enough to go out to a nice dinner too. With a little practice, you can make as good a double flare as a factory machine can. One step in the process I had to leaarn the hard way is to ream out the end of the tubing after cutting it with the tubing cutter. Seemed to be a needless step to me but it makes all the difference in getting a good flare. The stuff is relatively cheap so you can mess up a piece and not break the bank. Benefits will be you will save money, gain a new tool and a new skill. Can't beat that combo!
09-18-2002 10:02 PM
Thanks Willys for the info. Unfortunately, I'd be pretty worried about doing this myself as I am still learning the ins and outs of motoring. The truck is actually at the shop right now. I keep transferring it between the body and auto shop. Lucky for me they're on the same property. I been calling around and looking online, hopefully I'll find a place close to LA that can do this. Why is it always the cheapest finds turn into thousands out of pocket??
09-19-2002 02:16 AM
The hard lines are going to have to be made up. The kits you buy are usually designed for more than one application, hence the lack of hard lines.
If you are uncomfortable doing it, and the first thing out of your present shop's mouth was, "There's no brake lines in the kit", then you need to find a shop that specializes in custom installations.
09-19-2002 05:39 AM
Hey, another option is to run your brake lines with AN fittings. I assume why you have to fabricate new lines is because you brake kit you purchased has 37 degree flare fittings. I only assume... :confused: When making my brake lines I checked DOT regulations. It says you are to use double flares, but using single flares with AN fittings is considered an upgrade to double flares. I do not know what size lines you have to your calipers, mine are 3/16", so I used 3AN fittings and it is legal. AN fittings use what is called a tube sleeve and tube nuts (also known as "B" nuts). These tube sleeves are flared as well, which backs the single flare, making it twice as strong. If this is the case for you, you can by this stuff at Summit or Jegs,(not advertising, just letting know where to get) or where ever you shop. You can purchase the tubing (I used stainless steel), tube sleeves, tube nuts (steel or anodized), tube benders, single flaring kit, etc. Good luck. <img src="graemlins/mwink.gif" border="0" alt="[mwink]" />
09-19-2002 09:32 AM
I'll stress again, it is really easy to do yourself. You can bend the lines by hand with little or no chance of kinking them. You can get all kinds of fitting adaptors to screw them into what ever end devices they go to. The tubing comes in every size and length you need. If you have heartburn about cutting and reflairing the tubing ends, just get the next longer size and be creative in routing it to absorb the lenght. This will be one of the easier skills you will learn in hot rodding.
Go look (under "Latest Update" link) at this guy's brakeline job on his project frame. Not very scary when you look at it.