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Old 08-02-2013, 06:37 AM
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buffers..

Hi.. well I've been using my dads anytime I need to buff anything.. and that fine and all, but sometimes I'll borrow it and a club member will call him asking to buff their car on a sat for a show/cruise sunday..
and instead of calling me, he tells them sorry.. so I'd like to get my own..
his is 40+ years old. snap on. with no markings on it.. he doesn't remember what rpm range it is , only the brushes part #.. HA!!
a set a year .

anyways I was looking around and there seems to be a wide range of rpm(ranges) and pad size 6"/7"/8"/etc

whats a good all around sized pad.. and rpm range unit.. for a backyard diy guy that's not using it day in and day out, but wants it to last..
thanks..

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Old 08-02-2013, 06:43 AM
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these guys have anything and everything for detailing / buffing . they also run specials all the time. i have the flex buffer. weighs only 4.5 lbs. huge difference from my b&d at 8+ lbs. they also have all the different pads and some of the best compounds. i've used them for over 20 years .

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Old 08-02-2013, 07:28 AM
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For polishing/buffing speed is nor an issue, that, as I'm sure you know, is the difference between a polisher and a grinder. The polisher I use most is an old Ingersol Ran pneumatic. I like the pneumatic because I have constant control at my finger tips which comes in real handy on corners and edges where you can get burn a through very easily. An electric polisher has instant torque, whatever speed you have it dialed into is the speed you get immediately and sometimes that's to much. If you don't have a compressor, then the electric. obviously, is the way to go, if you do have a compressor, the pneumatic route would be what I would suggest.

As far as pads go, I do all my buffing with 8 inch pads and I don't use wool. Now, there isn't anything wrong with wool, a wool pad with compound will cut much faster than a foam pad, sometimes to fast as they generate more heat and can cause a burn through, 3M makes a polishing kit, it comes with a coarse machine compound, a medium, and an ultra fine Machine Polish, finishing glaze, micro fiber towels and 3 foam pads that are color coordinated to the color of the polish, so you can't make a mistake by using the wrong polish with the wrong pad. The other thing I like about the 3M polishing kit is that the pads are reversible, you can use both sides. 3M has developed a mandrel not unlike a socket and ratchet, that allows you to flip the pad over, click it in place and use the other side.

Now, this isn't the only system out there that works, there are many, this is just what has given me the best results.

Hope this helps.

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yes looking at air also.. only down side is only can be used where there is air.
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:41 AM
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69 widetrack , take a look at the flex buffer when you have time. it is an electronic buffer and has a delay built in for start up. pretty cool. wont sling your compound when you start. it also has a thumb control for speed.
i too loved my cp air buffer . had it forever . only thing was it is so damn loud . back then the electric ones were on/off and you would burn out switches pretty quick . i switched to a b&d with speed control and it was a good tool but just heavy and would wear you out.
at first i was leery of the small pads but now i prefer them. lot better control in tight spots.
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:11 AM
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Everything you say makes sense Shine and today is another good day. I did not realize that they "now" had speed controls on electric buffers...all I can say is, it's about time and I will look into it. I also agree that for tight spaces a smaller pad on my buffer would come in handy and have considered them over the years, just haven't taken that step yet. It might be one of those things where I got set in my ways and need to look at different things and I will.

Thanks Shine.

Gearheadslife, your right, there are upsides and down sides to both the welders and the pneumatic or electric polishers. With respect to polishers, what Shine has posted about the newer electric polishers, that may be the route to go, I know I'm going to check it out.

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Old 08-02-2013, 08:31 AM
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also Flex has been around for ever . what sold me was the weight. at 62 i'm a little tired and worn out . that 9 lb b&d was getting to be a chore to use . CG have some really good pads . i caught the flex on sale with backing plate , 3 pads and a bottle of cleaner. i like their cleaner but windex works just as well .
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I've gone through a few electric buffers over the years, right now I'm using one
by Dewalt and like it a lot. It is a little heavy but it has the most important
features that I won't do without anymore.
First it has different speeds on a separate switch, I like that but more
importantly, it has variable speed in the trigger.
I can start real slow so I don't sling the compound, then once it gets going,
pull the trigger the rest of the way and it will go to the speed setting
I have it set too.
I usually buff at just below the 1800 RPM setting.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:26 AM
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As I mentioned to Shine, I wasn't aware that they had variable speed electric buffer's, how long have they been out...please don't tell me that they've been out for 20 years or so...that might be embarrassing...LOL.

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Old 08-02-2013, 11:38 AM
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20 years or so

Sorry, I couldn't resist.
There have been variable speed for a long time though.
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at least 10 years. i bought my b&d about 10 years ago. it has a thumb wheel much like the flex .
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20 years or so

Sorry, I couldn't resist.
There have been variable speed for a long time though.

I like Shine's answer about 10 years better...Now I'm only half as embarrassed...LOL.

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will the flex take both small and standard 8" pads?
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:19 PM
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just different backing pads.
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DEWALT DWP849X 7-Inch/9-Inch Variable Speed Polisher with Soft Start - Amazon.com DEWALT DWP849X 7-Inch/9-Inch Variable Speed Polisher with Soft Start - Amazon.com

this is a pretty solid buffer. i have a good makita but i like this one better
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