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Old 11-10-2009, 03:50 PM
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Buick 455 Stage 1 or frankenstein 350?

I have a 1969 Buick Skylark sitting in my driveway awaiting my attention and I'm a little confused on one point-the guy I bought it from said it was a 350, and the aircleaner says 350-4 on it, but the intake manifold has STAGE-1 embossed on it, and as far as I know the whole Stage 1 bit was only 455 GS stuff. Does anyone know whether the stage 1 manifold for a 455 can be bolted onto a 350? Or anything obvious I could check for to identify the displacement of the engine?

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I belive the Buick 455 has the distributor in the front of the engine, and oil filter is on the passenger side front of engine.
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O.k so does the 350 buick. ( I got curious and did a little googleing, He he that tickled ) any hoo, the 455 is a big block, 350 small block. No an intake off a 455 should not fit on a 350, not without some snananigans of some sort! I'm just guessing but the 455 intake should be around 16'' from rocker to rocker, where as a 350 would be in the 13" ish area.
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A intake from a 350 will not bolt to a 455 or vise versa. The 455,430, and 400 will interchange. I had a GS Stage 1 years back, I don't recall there being any markings on the intake for the Stage 1, but it has been quite a few years.

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Found one for the 350. http://www.who-sells-it.com/cy/ta-pe...6/page-32.html

Either pictures of your engine or numbers off the block will be needed.
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I believe the "STAGE 1" intake you are speaking of is the aftermarket 350 intake made by a company called T A Performance as part of their performance parts specializing in small block Buick engines. Don't know if they are still around, but they were in the 1980's and 1990's. It is the intake in MT71c-10's link.

None of the actual factory Big Block Stage 1 parts actually say "Stage 1" on them, all they have is part #'s specific to the Stage 1 package. The outside badging of the car, and air cleaner decals, is all that said "Stage 1"
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455 Stage 1 heads have the same casting number as the standard head. The difference is in the valve sizes/porting.

The Stage 1 intake is cast iron. The TA Performance Buick 350 Stage 1 aftermarket intake that EN72 mentioned was an expensive piece (like $350?)- and is aluminum.

The Stage 2 Buick intake was also aluminum- an Edelbrock B4B. I've read only a dozen or so Stage 2 cars were assembled but the Stage 2 parts could be bought separately. Also that the S-2 heads are RARE.

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Stage 1 parts

The stage 1 package was a bunch of stuff added to the 455 GS. 455 heads that were machined to accept huge valves, stage 1 camshaft, re-curved distributer, re-jetted Q-Jet carb, Special fuel pump, and a slew of other minor stuff.

Made just under 400 hp - officially listed at 360 hp.

The Stage 2 package - was nothing short of awesome!

Special heads, with no exhaust runners, huge 2" round exhaust ports - never made any manifords for the heads - only headers (mickey thompson and Kustom reportedly made them)
Stage 2 camshaft - huge duration developing no vaccum
Stage 2 forged aluminum 11:1 compression pistons - only made in standard bore size (3 thou smaller actually to allow for the forged aluminum heat expansion)
Edelbrock B4B intake maniford
Holley 850 carb
4:78 rear-end gears
Cool hood scoop mounted on a stock non-GS skylark hood
and a few other parts i'm probably missing!

All said - around 500 HP (listed at 509 HP)

and yes, available as a part set or individual parts at your dealership!
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Buick made a 350 and then they made a high performance GS 350-4, I think the horse power was 310 hp and 390 torque
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350 has 6 valve cover bolts and a 455 has 5.
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