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Old 01-14-2012, 10:14 AM
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Build 1946 Chevy truck with 454 or 1949 F1 with 460?

I realize that this is a personal choice thing, but I have gone back and forth between the two about 6 times. Is there any objective, logical, reason to chose one of these builds over the other? Both will be automatic -- is there a durable automatic with OD that bolts right up to either a 454 or 460? Is there a cheap donor vehicle with a frame and suspension that is perfect for either of these trucks?

I think I am at the point where either decision would be fine, but I figured I would ask the experts.

1) 1941-1946 Chevy pickup: 454 auto
2)1948 -1949 Ford F1: 460 auto

Any related advice (which donor vehicle to use, etc.) would be massively appreciated.

Help me break the tie! Thanks!!

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Old 01-14-2012, 10:55 AM
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I realize that this is a personal choice thing, but I have gone back and forth between the two about 6 times. Is there any objective, logical, reason to chose one of these builds over the other? Both will be automatic -- is there a durable automatic with OD that bolts right up to either a 454 or 460? Is there a cheap donor vehicle with a frame and suspension that is perfect for either of these trucks?

I think I am at the point where either decision would be fine, but I figured I would ask the experts.

1) 1941-1946 Chevy pickup: 454 auto
2)1948 -1949 Ford F1: 460 auto

Any related advice (which donor vehicle to use, etc.) would be massively appreciated.
Help me break the tie! Thanks!!
I'm a chevy guy so that's how I vote. The cost of building a Ford motor equivelant to a Chevy can get upwards of double the $$$. The old saying between the two is a "Ford cost twice as much to go half as fast". I know them Ford guys will start dinging me now.
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I'm a chevy guy so that's how I vote. The cost of building a Ford motor equivelant to a Chevy can get upwards of double the $$$. The old saying between the two is a "Ford cost twice as much to go half as fast". I know them Ford guys will start dinging me now.
^^^^^^^^^me agree, on the running gear

but, lets have some example pics of the two trucks
454 in a ford?
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I am a mopar guy, so picking between Chevy and Ford is tough for me (I dont want another 440 monster).

Here are a couple example pics.
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I am a mopar guy, so picking between Chevy and Ford is tough for me (I dont want another 440 monster).

Here are a couple example pics.
OK, the chevy is way cooler looking

all I see when I look at the ford is "sanford and son"
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Dammit I was 51% in favor of the Ford before you said that. Haha.
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Dammit I was 51% in favor of the Ford before you said that. Haha.
of course the chevy reminds me of the movie karate kid, ( i think there was one ) but it still looks better
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The Ford has more room in the cab. Something to consider if you are over 5 foot 8 inches or so. I would build the Ford and put a SBC in it.

A 57 to 72 F-100 Ford rear end ( 9 inch series ) is almost a direct bolt in on the Ford F1. While there is plenty of room for a big block ( either Ford or Chevrolet ) ... a small block is generally a better choice because of the weight. A big block makes those trucks nose heavy and affects the handing and steering.
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I am 6'9" tall... so the height is a huge issue. I was planning to cut the end of the cab off and move it back about a foot on either car. I didn't know the Ford had more room in it. I still cannot fit 6'9" in there, can I?

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I am 6'9" tall... so the height is a huge issue. I was planning to cut the end of the cab off and move it back about a foot on either car. I didn't know the Ford had more room in it. I still cannot fit 6'9" in there, can I?

Thanks! Very helpful.
if you are going to change the cab, I would look at the back of the cab on each truck
go with the easiest to extend

(but I still think the chevy looks better )
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The reason that Ford paints their engines blue is so that they don't frighten the fish when you use them as boat moorings.

Chevy all the way. Particularly since you were going to add a little room inside to fit that monster frame of yours inside. 6' 9", whew, that's some big dude!
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The Ford has more room in the cab. Something to consider if you are over 5 foot 8 inches or so. I would build the Ford and put a SBC in it.

A 57 to 72 F-100 Ford rear end ( 9 inch series ) is almost a direct bolt in on the Ford F1. While there is plenty of room for a big block ( either Ford or Chevrolet ) ... a small block is generally a better choice because of the weight. A big block makes those trucks nose heavy and affects the handing and steering.
I tried checking the engine weight of the original engine in the Chevy...I think it would have had a 216, and that's a heavy engine. Somewhere up around 630#.
Now I do understand that the 454 is around 45# more, but that should be easily remedied with an aluminum intake, possibly aluminum heads and light weight headers.
A little bit of careful choosing will keep the weight very similar to the original, and quite likely less.
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I just bought a '48 Ford about 30minutes ago (pic of it attached). I even paid the $100 quit-nagging-me-about-my-old-truck fee to the fiance so all is well!

I fell in love with the truck the second I saw it in person.
...and Deuce was absolutely right, there is way more room inside the Ford, I am pretty sure I can fit in there comfortably if I just get a skinnier bench seat. I almost fit as it is and it has a huge puffy bench in it.

Thanks so much for everyone's advice (even you damn dirty Chevy lovers! (practicing my Ford-guy routine)).

I am off to the search feature to figure out what to do about the suspension in this thing.
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ok, ok, your new truck is different than the sanfords'
congrats, on your new project
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LOL not much different... but different! I feel better now hahaha.
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