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Old 11-06-2007, 05:02 AM
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the Ozone ?

What about the tricoeitholin ( I can't spell) thats used to clean that shuttle every time it comes back, that stuff isn't helping the ozone at all. And what good is another planet that we can't live on after we've done this 1 in.

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the Ozone ?

What about the tricoeitholin ( I can't spell) thats used to clean that shuttle every time it comes back, that stuff isn't helping the ozone at all. And what good is another planet that we can't live on after we've done this 1 in.
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What about the tricoeitholin ( I can't spell) thats used to clean that shuttle every time it comes back, that stuff isn't helping the ozone at all. And what good is another planet that we can't live on after we've done this 1 in.
Fear not, Al Gore is going to save us all and the planet

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ROFL @ Vince

But you shouldnt be making fun of the man who invented the internet
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But you shouldnt be making fun of the man who invented the internet
I know, he does a superb job of it himself.

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Go ahead and let the stuff out. Do it in an enclosed area while you are at it, so you can experience it good for yourself. Since we only use this planet for a short time, usually about 60-90 years each, we don't have to worry about what we do to it.

You don't have to be a "tree hugger" to be responsible. I guess you guys also think it is OK to pour oil down the drain also.

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Take it to a shop. If forking out 20 bucks is really that big of a deal, it really IS making it hard to say hotrodders are doing their part.

And, Global Warming won't be felt by the temperature being a little warm in most of the northwestern hemisphere. It affects the areas already stuck, like Africain deserts and tropical storm plagued areas.
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This thread has pretty much summed it up ... in several different replies.

Using the "fitting type" as a means of identifying the "refrigerant type" just doesn't work. Sorry, but it's just not that easy.

I work in the auto parts business, originally at a NAPA that had a repair shop that included air conditioning (automotive and agricultural) as one of it's specialties. We had ALL kinds of guys coming in with all of these "drop-in" replacements for R12 ... and sent them packing. We only installed either R12 or R134A.

The problem is that these "drop-ins" are the cheap, easy fix. So are "sealants". They WILL get you back in the "cool air" zone.

A licensed technician is required by law (at least in this area) to use a refrigerant ID sticker which is affixed to the vehicle as visible and as close as possible to the low side service port. If everyone played by the rules, it would have been fine ... but they don't. We even had guys (farmers mostly) filling their systems with propane, for heaven's sake.

As pointed out ... most shops will use a refrigerant verifier BEFORE hooking up their expensive reclaim units BECAUSE they are worried about contaminating both the machine and the reclaimed refrigerant. Most machines have a 30lb storage (reclaim) cylinder ... so contaminating that becomes quite costly. Most shops will just simply send you away if they discover any "garbage" refrigerants.

My suggestion would be to talk nicely to your local auto wrecker, as they are required to evacuate AC systems before sending the car to the crusher. I believe that they still use the verifier, and only reclaim R12/R134 too.
If they discover it is a hydrocarbon based refrigerant ... I believe that it is OK to release them to the atmosphere ... as they are non-ozone depleting in nature. They should know that for sure.

One more word of caution for anyone reading this.
Four Seasons / Everco, for one ... and they are a major player in the AC parts biz ... WILL NOT warranty a compressor if it has been used in a system containing anything other than R12 / R134A ... and that includes sealants. That should be telling us something. Those DIY kits have also been called "system-killer" kits.
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gas ---gas

hey my man,it would take 9 yrs to let your bit of gas hit ozone layer,(if it stayed a solid)---but this is the best one,where do you think all this **** comes from in the first place my man,yep,atmosphere,

When governments stop releasing their **** to atmos,so will I...crack it and let her rip boris,it just isnt gunna make any difference,
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