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Old 03-04-2006, 10:17 AM
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This just sounds like a common mistake if you dont know any better.

Go in there ask them about checkiing main bores for straightness with straight edge. If they "lost" the straight edge have them use the bar from rollover fixture out of boring bar. When its laying across all the mains its very easy to see that the flange or what ever you want to call it is slightly smaller than main bores. Youll see daylight under there. The big notch in bar is just for doing 400 small blocks.

If 400 blocks are hard to come by this is a good time to negotiate a deal on a 350 block with a fresh bore and hone for free.
Money you saved can be for grinding your crank to fit the 350.
Whats 17 cubic inchs anyway?
In long run you wont have to worry about blown head gaskets.

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Old 03-06-2006, 01:02 AM
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that is a good idea... negotiate for a 350... make a 383 out of it... there is a 400 in the paper here for $160... i am really tempted to go get it... it would be nice in my nova...
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If he only bored one cylinder that way, he may have offered to sleeve it. If all four were bored before the mistake was discovered it could be costly. But I'm with the other guys -- his mistake, his cost. He should at least offer to cover the labor if you buy the sleeves -- even if it is all four.

But then is the 17 inches that important? Sounds like he would prefer you bring in another block, like a 350, and then he'd bore that at no charge. If that's what he has in mind, he's not really trying to screw you on the deal, at least not much. If you go that route I'd negotiate ALL the machine labor at no charge, including the crank, since he messed the block up. But all that's up to you.

If you leave that shop and don't try negotiating an agreeable settlement between the two of you, you'll have a hard time getting anything more than the cost of the original boring back from the shop because you dind't give him a chance to make it right. Doesn't sound fair, but you have to think about what a judge hears. "You got mad and took it somewhere else because he's human and made a mistake. Understandable, but you didn't give him a chance ot make it right. You're entitled to get your money back for the work he did, but he's not responsible for the other shops work. You should have given him the chance to make it right first. Case closed!". I've seen that happen in small claims court (usually anything under $5K). Now if he's just unwilling to admit it's his fault and make a reasonable offer to fix it that works for both of you, you are likely to get whatever another shop charges. It all depends on which of you sounds unreasonable to the judge.
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