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Old 12-23-2012, 12:39 AM
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When I lived in Duluth, we had wind chills of -80 a few times. I had a 1000 watt tank heater, plugged it into my outside light, hit the switch in the morning about an hour before I left for work, it sounded like a percolator type of coffee pot. The car would spin over like it was summer time, heat coming out of the heater immediately. Best investment ever that year.

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So, I dug through dad's mine field, err, garage today, and found an old summit cam still in the box. Sum-1103?
Summit Racing® Cam and Lifter Kits SUM-K1103 - Mobile SummitRacing.com

I'm thinking I'll save the 186's for a properly built motor, and run this the way it is. The summit cam seems alot better suited to the stock goodwrench motor, am I right? Maybe use shim gaskets to help quench and compression while im at it..

And crane makes summits cams, so I'm not too afraid of quality..
Dad has a 1104 summit cam in a 383 in his airboat that performs well and we haven't had any problems in 3 years since it was built, so...
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summit cam specs:
ummit Racing Part Number:SUM-K1103

Cam Style:Hydraulic flat tappet

Basic Operating RPM Range:1,600-5,200

Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift:214

Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift:224

Duration at 050 inch Lift:214 int./224 exh.

Advertised Intake Duration:272

Advertised Exhaust Duration:282

Advertised Duration:272 int./282 exh.

Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:0.442 in.

Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:0.465 in.

Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:0.442 int./0.465 exh.

Lobe Separation (degrees):112
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Now find some low buck home ported 305HO heads to go with the summit cam.
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So, I ended up using the Summit cam, and my 186 heads, with a .015 shim gasket, which brings me up to about 9:1 give or take a point. and .043 quench
Now, with that, 1 5/8 Headers, and stock, but gasket matched intake/heads, where should I be power wise?
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I punched in my numbers on an online calculator, and with 9:1scr, and my cam timing, I got 8.45:1dcr. Is this too much for 87 octane? 89?
I noticed that summit only shows valve events at .050" lift, do I need timing at the seat for these calculators?
Here's the cam specs again:
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I suppose I'll just have to wait and see when I get it running.
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My cam is mild, but the choke setting housing needed to swing to the winter setting. Has a plug in battery float charger and block heater from outdoor outlet. Sits outside in driveway no garage. A day ago it was 0/-20 wind chill in the morning. Went out , cranked and fired right up. Exit, let run high idle ,and unplug front of vehicle. Inside for work stuff and out. Get in and drive it away. Normal $2 a qt oil 10w40 gtx.

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I got the motor in, and running, but I don't know what I should set my base timing at. 12*? 10?
Also, when I mash the throttle, it backfires out the carb, is that from improper timing, or...
Thanks for all the help guys!
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16º is a good place to start with a medium cam.
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Just a note, wind chill does not affect engines. It only affects living beings.
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Just a note, wind chill does not affect engines. It only affects living beings.
I'm sorry T-bucket23 I think your wrong...windchill does affect things that aren't living. Whenever you have air moving over anything, it has a cooling effect. If that wasn't the case, why we use fans either electric or manual ones from the water pump to cool down an engine?

When a vehicle is sitting outside in -30 degree weather with a 25 mile an hour wind, it has less chance of starting than the same vehicle in the same conditions except it's in a garage sheltered from the 25 mile an hour winds.

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I'm sorry T-bucket23 I think your wrong...windchill does affect things that aren't living. Whenever you have air moving over anything, it has a cooling effect. If that wasn't the case, why we use fans either electric or manual ones from the water pump to cool down an engine?

When a vehicle is sitting outside in -30 degree weather with a 25 mile an hour wind, it has less chance of starting than the same vehicle in the same conditions except it's in a garage sheltered from the 25 mile an hour winds.

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No I am right, wind chill makes living things feel colder due to the rapid evaporation of moisture from the skin due to the wind.

Using your example if you put a chunk of steel outside at it is 0 degrees with a 50 mile per hour wind the temperature of the metal will be 0. It will get there faster because the moving air will help to dissipate and warmth that may be in the metal. As far a a radiator and fan, the air moving across the radiator removes excess heat. You can run that fan all day long and the temperature of the coolant in the radiator will never drop below ambient temperature.

Definition of wind chill

The human body loses heat through convection, evaporation, conduction, and radiation.[1] The rate of heat loss by a surface through convection depends on the wind speed above that surface. As a surface heats the air around it, an insulating boundary layer of warm air forms against the surface. Moving air disrupts the boundary layer, allowing for new, cooler air to replace the warm air against the surface. The faster the wind speed, the more readily the surface cools.

For inanimate objects, the effect of wind chill is to reduce any warmer objects to the ambient temperature more quickly. It cannot, however, reduce the temperature of these objects below the ambient temperature, no matter how great the wind velocity.
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You are right, the wind will not make any inanimate object colder than the ambient air temperature...I agree, however, as you mentioned it will make metal cool off faster, so metal being an inanimate object, is effected by air movement.

Perhaps semantic's and after reading your response I think we may be on the same page.
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