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Old 11-11-2003, 12:53 PM
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Camaro projects for sale...

i think it's great that there's so many beautiful, restored camaro's out there! What a great car.
BUT... where do guys like me go to find a project that's not 12 million dollars for a rusted frame w/o motor,trans, etc?

I'm on ebay every day, i'm on team camaro, on the camaro webring, etc, etc. 85% of the cars are finished and a fortune.

So, isnt there a newspaper, magazine or website that's dedicated to projects for sale?

Where does everyone get their projects from?

Here's my requirements, pls review and let me know where they are or give me a dose of reality and adjust my sights.

Also, any answers to the main questions of where to go to find them is really what i need.
i've been looking for over 3 yrs at this point. i'm 39 and patience is a virtue, but i want to get rolling!

my requirements:
'69 or '68 camaro, 4 spd, 350 or 327.
car doesn't have to run, needs total restoration or better, preferably no rust or little in quarters, rockers, and is somewhat complete, i.e., it has engine, trans, seats, wheels...
and i'd like to spend no more than $2500

any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Old 11-11-2003, 06:58 PM
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Well I found my latest project on Ebay. Just so happen to get lucky, and the guy lived across town. So I was able to look at the car before bidding.

Here are a few other sites to check out:

http://www.kars.com/

http://www.collectorcartraderonline.com/
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Old 11-12-2003, 08:50 AM
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how much did you pay and what'd you get?

anyone else have any links?
i've used those two before. ebay has the most, but i'm looking for a dedicated rersource, if there is such a thing

thx
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Old 11-12-2003, 10:34 AM
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Oh, I didnt get anything to special. 71 camaro coupe to make the way I want. Always liked the early 2nd generation camaros. I paid 750 for it.

I did have a 69 camaro that I bought when I was in highschool. I found it in the car trader (traderonline.com). Had it for 13 years until someone decided to rearend me one day.
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Old 11-12-2003, 01:16 PM
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yeah, moron that i am, had a 69 z28 @20 yrs ago-4 spd, decent shape, ran good
bpought it for $3000, sold it for $3000.
what a dope!

now i'm paying the price trying to find another.
trader online--used it....still trying!
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Old 11-12-2003, 06:35 PM
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I would definately keep an eye out at local swap meets, newspapers, and believe it or not I found mine thru message groups online. It was in New Mexico and had it towed here.
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Old 11-12-2003, 10:02 PM
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They're out there and in the price range. There was a '69 for sale here in my hometown. 327 car auto, but your into fixing stuff you could change that out no problem. Nearly no rust, nice interior. I looked but have too many projects already. But a guy in the local car club got it for $2200 CDN, thats gotta be near $1700 US. Be patient you'll find the right one.


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You have chosen the most popular years for Camaro. The 69 Z/28 being the most valuable. I looked at two examples of the 69 Z/28 just a few weeks ago, both were $29,000.00. Even the plain Camaros are bringing good money these days, it's crazy.

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LOL this one's got no motor and trees growing up through the grill and they want $5,000 for it...........

http://adcache.collectorcartraderonl...8/56628728.htm

The problem is because all the 'super' Camaros , Yenko ,Harrell,Baldwin,COPO, ZL-1 ,L-78 etc have gone so craaaazy it's pushing the price of all the others up.

I think rust in the quarters in probably one of the easier areas to repair other than the bolt on panels . It's the places that are difficult to repair that I would be more concerned with , bottom corners of front and rear screens , inner rear quarters , bottom of firewall , anywhere that neccessitates a lot of dissassembly to make an effective repair .
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Old 11-13-2003, 10:03 AM
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very good points. this is my first time, so i'm starting from almost zero knowledge.
i'm not too concerned with whatever area's can be bolted in, i'm concerned with welding. i've never welded, don't know how and have no equipment, so i try to stay away from that for now.
maybe you guys can list the area's that need welding vs. bolt on?

that would be a very helpful piece of info!

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Bolt on panels,
Hood
Trunk lid
Rear lower panel , valence
Front upper and lower panel
Inner and Outer front fenders
Cowl panel
In fact the hole front end forward of the firewall is bolt on
Doors complete

If you go to look at any take a small torch and shine it up in the rear wheel wells from underneath and all along the rockers,check the frame all along both sides ,If the window rubbers on top of the doors are worn out you'll probably be able to get your eye real close to it and shine a torch down in there too , same with rear side windows to check for any heavy damage or bondo repair. IMHO it's a lot cheaper to repair or replace any mechanical components than it is to do heavy rust repair and bodywork.

Good luck and let us know if you find anything.
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67 to 69 Camaro rust area's.

Rear glass lower corner both sides
rear lower quarter panels behind rear wheels
Around both rear wheel well openings
Both rocker panels.

Don't pay a premium for an R/S, S/S, or Z/28 without verifying numbers, there are a lot of counterfeits out there.

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This is better than i thought it would be!
i'm getting real, experienced advice and i really appreciate it.

first, i dont think i'll be buying an r/s ,s/s or z, as much as i'd love to. at least not until i rebuild a standard one and sell for enough to buy one.
i'm just looking for a 4-spd '69 or '68 to do.
thx for the advice though.

As for the rust, are floor boards bolt in or weld?
i'm pretty sure the trunk deck has to be welded...but the front end, the interior (floorboards?),etc are pretty much bolt-

the rockers--are they the area under the doors? that is always rusted and it appears attached to the frame. it looks like they can't be replaced w/o major, major work and expense...the expense is what i want to keep down.

I wish i could just find the car and get to it, but patience has always paid off. and everything worth having is worth waiting for!
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Both the trunk floor and the interior floor are all welded. If you have any rusted out area's you can either purchase preformed patch panels, or an entire floor, but it will have to be welded in. The rocker panels are welded to the body, not the frame. And yes, they are right below the doors.

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What are the winters like where you are Zartan ?, lots of snow and salt on the roads ? .

I was in PA back in 87 , I went to Super Chevy Sunday at Maple Grove Raceway in Mohnton awesome !! . I also bought a 41 Willys coupe with a hot 454/TH400 , it was a real dragstrip refugee gasser from the 60's - 70's .Steel body with a Cal Custom glass front , straight front axle , Olds rear end offset to the left. I forget the guys full name , it was Sal or Sol he was an Italian/American guy with a Hot Rod and Classic Car sales just outside of Allentown . I bought it unseen over the phone and had it shipped up to my friend Alan Thornton at Flatlanders in Norfolk PA so he could put it on the boat to good old Blighty. I called him to find out what it was like , he just said "it looks like death".....LOL

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