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Old 02-08-2006, 06:17 PM
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is a camaro subframe the best idea?

I have a 57 chevy half ton pickup and am thinking of putting a 70 camaro sub frame on it, but I can't find any info on how to do it. Plus I'm just not sure if this is the best idea. I know I will be saving money but at what cost. I have a 2000 s10 rear end that I'm going to put in it aswell. Any help would really be appreciated.thanks!!!!!!!!

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Old 02-08-2006, 06:55 PM
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personally i would look into putting that 2000 S10 complete frame under there. disc brakes, SBC mounting possibilities. adjustable wheel base... makes more sense to me. if i can ever get a hold of a 52 chevy p/u that is the route i am going. but then again there are some Mustang II setups that can be put in there as well...
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the camaro is perfect for the 57 truck. frame is same width. it drives great and puts it in the weeds. you can see one in progress on my web page. " cannons 56" the s10 is too narrow for it. i do not cut and butt. i overlay for safety and it gets me down another 1 1/2 in.
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I understand that the 78-87 Monte carlo etc is a better fit.
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how can it fit better if the camaro frame is the same width as the 57 ?
to use the monte carlo they cut the frame and shove it inside then plate it. unsafe in my book, i will not do them that way.
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Remove the front crossmember off of a 73-87 chev 1/2 ton two wheel drive truck, suburban, or blazer. This will be a one piece deal with the control arms and all suspension complete. You can weld it to your exhisting rails or make plates to bolt it together, I've been told this is about the easiest suspension swap you can do on these years trucks. Get one with disc brakes. Steal the power steering box while you're at it. And the best thing about it is you're not using wimpy mustang II parts. The aftermarket also makes a lot of brake upgrade parts, spring selections, and drop spindles. Cheeeeaaaaap
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yor right bob. it's the easest swap for the trucks. but it will still set high like a truck. works on the 67 to 70's trucks too. i have done at least 25 early trucks with the camaro. i hate mll's because of the rack and pinon. believe it or not the mll has the same size ball joints as an ltd. v8 auto/ air car was 3400 lbs.
but this is why i love the clip i'm bad about dragging bumpers.
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how can it fit better if the camaro frame is the same width as the 57 ?
to use the monte carlo they cut the frame and shove it inside then plate it. unsafe in my book, i will not do them that way.
Just what I have heard...Used a Nova clip on my 51 Ford, worked great.

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Old 02-09-2006, 07:27 AM
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cool. ya just cant beat the stance of the clip.had a 48 in high school with a 283 with adapter for the granny box. i actualy thought it was great. death trap with horsepower
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thanks...but...

Thanks for the help, but how hard is it to hang the sheet metal afterwards, and would it be safer or easier to crossweld the 57 frame to the 70 camaro subframe I have.Again...Thankyou!!!!
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the camaro is perfect for the 57 truck. i do not cut and butt. i overlay for safety and it gets me down another 1 1/2 in.
shine,

do you have pics of the overlay? would really like to see that. would the 70's camaro setup work even in a 52 chevy p/u? how wide of wheels can you put in the wheel wells with it?
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this is cannon's 56. the other is a 51 ford pu. on early trucks they are a little wide.
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shine,

very nice work.... did you have to flare out the frame on the 56? or is it like that where you joined them?
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Old 02-10-2006, 10:11 AM
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no. the tri5's are the same as the camaro.
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Old 02-10-2006, 10:18 AM
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that's nice to know... kind of like how. the bed lines from a 90's stepside line up with a 68's body lines... GM had some luck or forsight.
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