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camaro traction bars please help

Hey guys I have a set of these traction bars:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CEE-2103/
I am having difficulty understanding how I am to install these bars when they are desgined to replace the original lower spring pad/shock mount and they have no hole for the shock to be mounted? The car is a 1980 camaro z28 and it uses the lower spring pad as the shock mount as well. Here is a pic of the original spring pads.
http://fritzfam.com/gallery/d/5566-1...unt+plates.jpg
The little extended portions in the middle of the photo is where the shock absorber mounts. The traction bars do not include these extensions and have nowhere for the shock to mount. Am I missing something here? If anyone has installed a set of these traction bars on a 2nd gen. camaro please shed some light.

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Those bars have a shock mount hole, in fact four of them two inside and two outside.

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Those holes are vertical and NOT horizantal like they are on the original pads, the shocks have a stud mounted bottom that would have to be bent 90 degrees to go through one of those holes lol. Are the holes on the traction bars intended for a dual eyelet type absorber or something?
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Those holes are vertical and NOT horizantal like they are on the original pads, the shocks have a stud mounted bottom that would have to be bent 90 degrees to go through one of those holes lol. Are the holes on the traction bars intended for a dual eyelet type absorber or something?
Yes, those traction bars will require you to change the shocks to one with an eyelet at the end, with a stud mounted in the appropriate one of the four mounts on the traction bars spring pad. 68-72 Nova or Camaro application should be the correct shock, possibly 68-72 Chevelle

Or, if you are handy with a welder just cut and paste
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Yea that sucks because I didn't realize that before I ordered my new shocks as well which, like the originals, have a stud mounted bottom. I guess I either need the appropriate shocks or leave out the traction bars.......
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If those shocks are new and unopened you should be able to exchange them for the right ones, Summit Racing is good in that respect.

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Yea that sucks because I didn't realize that before I ordered my new shocks as well which, like the originals, have a stud mounted bottom. I guess I either need the appropriate shocks or leave out the traction bars.......
You don't have to send your new shocks back . You can still use them i have the same style bars on my 67 camaro look at the bar see the parts sticking out from both sides with the hole in the end you can put a bolt through there and run the stock shocks JMO, I can take a pic of mine for you if you like . I went ahead and took a few pics for you i have had mine like this i know for over 10 yrs.


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You don't have to send your new shocks back . You can still use them i have the same style bars on my 67 camaro look at the bar see the parts sticking out from both sides with the hole in the end you can put a bolt through there and run the stock shocks JMO, I can take a pic of mine for you if you like . I went ahead and took a few pics for you i have had mine like this i know for over 10 yrs.


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Cole, you'd have to look at the pic he linked to see that his original shock mounts are for a shock with a "bayonet" type stud end, like what is on the top of the front shocks. He needs a different shock than he has or needs to do some cutting and welding on the traction bars and his original spring/shock lower plarte
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camaro traction bars

I think the Summit photo is a Generic Picture. Cuz there is no way those bars would work with your setup. You need a shock mount right?
Or maybe you use your plate WITH the new plate TOO!!
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I think the Summit photo is a Generic Picture. Cuz there is no way those bars would work with your setup. You need a shock mount right?
Or maybe you use your plate WITH the new plate TOO!!
This traction bar is somewhat generic in that it fits four or five GM applications, it is not a direct replacement with regards to shock mounting, they are equipped with the most common shock used with those several applications. Some vehicles will require a shock change. It has been this way since these style bars were invented in the 60's. That is the way it has always been, there is no direct replacement for every shock variation, the purchaser is responsible for getting the shock that is needed.

You don't stack the bar and the original shock/spring plate, you get the correct shocks or cut the mount you need off the old plates and weld them to the new bar's plate if you want to keep the original stock shock..
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Yep, you are absolutely correct and I see it would totally work if I had the correct shocks to put in. For the meantime I've just used the stock brackets and the stud-ended shocks that I bought and I will try this setup out for a while to see if I really do need the traction bars as well. If I do feel like the traction bars would make a remarkable difference then I will purchase the correct shocks and install the bars. I will take some pics of the setup as I have it now so you can see how it's looking.
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Traction Bars on Gen2 Camaro

I know this is an old thread but maybe I can help a bit.

I was getting some axle twist and rear-end-sink on hard acceleration on my '72 Camaro with a 12-bolt '71 rear (which I think came with the car... '72 Camaros are something of a production oddity) and heavy-duty multiple leafs. I even run a helper spring in the back to stiffen it! But I realized the only reasonably cheap solution would be t-bars, so I looked 'em up and found what you guys did. I came to the conclusion that I didn't want to replace my spring pads. Plus I have another problem... I have an asymmetric lift and I realized that t-bars would likely block access to either the front of the leaf spring (my preferred rear lift point) or the subframe right behind it. So, knowing some hacking would likely be involved, I got the cheap generic bars (like the original Lakewoods; mine are Spectre) to see what I could manage.

A test fitting showed exactly what I feared; mounting the bars as they came would keep me from using the lift on the car. In that contest, the lift wins. So, I took a couple of bar clamps to my little worktable, dug out my Skil Saw and my old drill (inherited from my Dad!) with a 3/8 cobalt bit, and soon I had two t-bars with about 3-4 inches chopped off the nose and a new snubber hole.

That setup worked fine for the driver's side (where the shock mount is to the rear of the axle). But on the passenger side, with the shock mount in front of the axle, the bar had to be mounted farther forward --- back to the work table, another 2 inches or so lopped off. At this point, it was a matter of shimming to get the right fit and snubber height (hint... if you need a little more snubber height, shim the snubber with washers, not the bar mounts).

Bottom line... both bars were already shimmed about 3/8" in the back due to the helper springs. The driver-side required just a washer or two under the snubber and the passenger-side (shorter) bar required about the same thickness shim (3/8" or so) in front as in back, which was accomplished with a piece of bar stock and the same primitive tool set. The Spectres are chromed, and they look great! Moreover, they work great. And an unintended benefit was the fact that the extra clamps around the springs served to take out some slop in the multiple leafs, firming the ride and enhancing handling noticeably!

Plus I can still use my lift.
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