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Old 01-21-2005, 01:37 AM
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Camaro VATS ignition and column

I have a '91 Chevy Camaro V-6. My car recently got broken into and when they were trying to steal it, they completely ripped a hole in column. The turn signal switch (wipers, brights) was torn off. The ignition is in half. The key won't go in. The tilt was broken. Wires are hanging and broken pieces are all over the place.
I assume I need ro replace the column, but my question is this: Do I have to take it to a dealership because of the VATS ignition, or can put a regular ignition in it this time? I just had the VATS completely replaced a year ago, just one of the unnecessary things the dealership did to my car trying to fix an alternator problem. Is it possible to bypass the VAT system and install a regular column and ignition?

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Old 01-21-2005, 07:58 AM
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it is possible to bypass the vats but you do need to find it and trace the wires to the ignition switch then install a jumper! basically you are looking for the plug in at the vats disconnect it and install a jumper! the wires are 12 gage the vats is usually just under the dash above the steering column maybe when you replace the column you will see it? otherwise you will have to take it to a dealer to have a new key made with the proper pill for your car? last i checked the keys were around $75.00? Good luck!
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Cheapest alternative is to solder a resistor on the correct wire leading to the VATS module. Resisteance should match the pellet in your key, that way the VATS module will tell the ECM that the right key is in the ignition all the time.

Next cheapest is to check out gmtuners.com who can reprogram your PROM to ignore VATS altogether.

Both of these solution will leave your VATS totally disabled.
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Old 01-21-2005, 08:42 PM
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hmm my parents 88 camaro got broken into not to long ago and we didn't see it for like 3 weeks before the cops found it in the inner city.... for 3rd gens being so plentiful people really like to steal them
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Old 01-22-2005, 05:18 AM
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Seems like they really don't know which have the VATS and which don't. I've heard that my car is worth more in parts than in whole and that's the reason why it is constantly trying to be stolen. One of the last years of the old body style, and a lot of kids are buying old ones and fixing them up. My son is 16 in April, If I could just keep it in one piece until then, I'll gladly turn it over to him.
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Re: Camaro VATS ignition and column

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I assume I need ro replace the column, but my question is this: Do I have to take it to a dealership because of the VATS ignition, or can put a regular ignition in it this time? I just had the VATS completely replaced a year ago, just one of the unnecessary things the dealership did to my car trying to fix an alternator problem.
Since you need to replace the column anyway, how 'bout trying to find a donor car that you can get with the key and the VATS unit. All you would have to do is remove/replace. That VATS is a separate box... 2 screws and a plug. Any chance they didn't get your car because of the VATS?
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Painless makes a wiring kit to negate the vats. I think it is less than $100

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If you really want to bypass that year Vats its a lot cheaper to just figure out which of the 15 possible codes (ohms) you have and wire in the proper 1/4 watt resistor. If you have the key all you have to do is measure the resistance in the pellet in the key and match it to the table below. If you do not have the key you can simply try each of the following ohms values till you stumble across the right one.
You would wire the resistor to pins B7 (PPL/WHT) and B8(WHT/BLK) in the decoder module connector.

Use Color........................P/N..Vats Code.Ohms
Orange, White, Red, Black - RES390 - - - 392
Green, Red, Orange Black - RES510 - CN - 523
Blue, Gray Brown, Black - RES680 - FW - 681
Gray, Gray, Violet, Black - RES910 - GP - 887
Brown, Brown, Orange, Brown-RES1.1K - KA - 1130
Brown, Yellow, Violet, Brown -RES1.5K - N5 - 1470
Brown, Gray, Violet, Brown -RES1.8K - UN - 1870
Red, Orange, Violet, Brown - RES2.4K- XB - 2370
Orange, Black, Brown, Brown - RES3.0K - GA - 3010
Orange, Violet, Yellow, Brown- RES3.6K - NP - 3740
Yellow, Violet, Green, Brown - RES4.7K - FY - 4750
Blue, Black, Yellow, Brown - RES6.2K - C5 - 6040
Violet, Green, Black, Brown - RES7.5K - XY - 7500
White, Green, Orange, Brown - RES10K - KB - 9530
Brown, Brown, Gray, Red - RES12K - UW - 11800

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Old 01-26-2005, 04:53 PM
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Not blasting your decision,but why? It may be expensive,but it must have worked.You still have your car. Is it really worth the chance that it may not happen again?
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By having to take my car to the dealership instead of a regular mechanic, it will cost me as much as my car is worth. I just wanted to find a less costly way to get it running.
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