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Old 07-16-2008, 09:31 PM
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Camshaft Innovations cams

has any one tried Camshaft Innovations cams? i'm thinking of giving them a try, but i can't find any feedback about them. the cost for a flat tappet is $250.00 shipped, so i would like to know if their service is worth it or not.

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I use Jay for all my upper end stuff. He has done, SBF SBC and BBmopar cams for me... One thing about his cams is they come with a cam doctor card. They are not like all the comp, crane, etc. whats on the card is the cam that you are installing... The center line will be exact, with the valve event numbers..and so-forth.

I am getting ready to order a BBC max effort cam from him...

Top of the line cams, and Jay knows what he is doing if you listen to him and don't TELL him what you want...

The only down side is that he can be very hard to get ahold of....

If you talk to him tell him Keith from K-Star said hi....
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is his cam going to give me more power over a off the shelf comp or lunati?
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Lets just say old Jay and I had a disagreement, he claimed one
thing to begin with, then changed his tune when I called him on
it. When he figured out what I'd done, He had the thread stripped
of our little discussion, and I was banned for life from the site.

I have no respect for that little weasel...

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dont buy autoparts from mfg. that are not well known.
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is his cam going to give me more power over a off the shelf comp or lunati?
It all depends on how accurate the info is that you give him... If you know the exact compression not guess at it, the cylinder head flow numbers not some magazine article numbers, etc...it will make more power then an off the shelf grind...if your looking for 50hp probably not, if your looking for 15 probably...


Bates_k, I have herd a few other people that have had issues with him, but there is always 2 side to a story. Jay is an up front in your face person. If you sport on him he will sport on you...He is very busy and has no time to mess with people. His personality aside,,,his cams work and work well...

Dawg. NO off shore junk from Jay. He gets all his cores from the best Core provider around, and has the cams ground to his specifications. Then he runs them on his Cam Doctor to make sure it is the correct grind......


I have a 434 SBF with one of his grinds in. It is a basic engine with out of the box pro-one dart heads on. The engine is in a stock suspension mustang @3200lb with the driver. It went 9.8's right off the trailer on all motor no-bottle. That engine has 2 years on it with zero valve train issues, it has been 9.2's on a small hit.

427 SBC in a 3600lb car, this engine is a 9.8:1 pump gas deal. It idles at 900rpms with 15HG of vac. That engine has one of Jay's hyd rollers, 230@.050. It runs high 10.8's to low 10.9's all day every day. It has been 9.7's on the juice. Zero cam issues with it. This car is driven on the street with some 4 hour road trips under it's belt...

I say the guy can grind cams,,,,

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Bates_k, I have herd a few other people that have had issues with him, but there is always 2 side to a story. Jay is an up front in your face person. If you sport on him he will sport on you...He is very busy and has no time to mess with people. His personality aside,,,his cams work and work well...

I say the guy can grind cams,,,,

Keith
He may be able to grind cams for V8s, but he is clueless when it comes to EAO 2.0L Ford
cams, and his customer skills leave a lot to be desired.
He spends an awful lot of time on the SBFord forum if he is that busy, and never
mind the fact that he insulted the carb builder for a well known Nascar driver
from Washington state...

K

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Tried to log on...

Yep, I'm still banned, I guess I pissed Mr Allen off royally, I've
never been banned from a forum for over a year...

Ya know, if you piss a "god" off, you too can get a lifetime ban...

But then again, I only own one Windsor, a 302, in a '73 Capri, so
I can see their point of banning me for life, My other cars have either
a Turbo 2.0s and 2.3s, or a 385 Series Ford...

For some reason, I can think for myself...

K

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He may be able to grind cams for V8s, but he is clueless when it comes to EAO 2.0L Ford
cams, and his customer skills leave a lot to be desired.
He spends an awful lot of time on the SBFord forum if he is that busy, and never
mind the fact that he insulted the carb builder for a well known Nascar driver
from Washington state...

K

So what did his cam do to your engine that was so bad???

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So what did his cam do to your engine that was so bad???

K
Anyone who knows the EAO 2.0L Ford, commonly called the Pinto 2L,
will order up a cam with as much lift as they can get, duration doesn't seem
to be as important as lift.
I got a custom ground cam with way more duration and not enough lift
for the compression I had, .450 lift and 270* duration, when
I requested .550 lift and 240* duration at .050...

With the porting and compression, the engine should have made about
140RWHP, it made 89RWHP. Granted, it was somewhat cheaper than
having one sent over from England, but didn't make the grade in the long run...

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