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Old 10-08-2002, 03:59 AM
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I'm hoping someone out there has seen this setup before. Clearly the spindles and backing plate are forties Ford (with Ford script shoes). The drums and hub are all one casting (12" x 1-3/4"). Any of the Ford/Merc drums I've seen for sale are just plain drums that mount on a separate hub. I can't seem to find anything like these on any of the websites selling vintage Ford parts. I've checked the bearing numbers and they seem to be Ford. The car was probably rodded in the late fifties so maybe this was some sort of weird swap popular at the time? Thanks

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crap, can't see the pic.
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Try posting the image again. I think it has to have a URL link to work here.

URLAddress.jpg [img] in front [/img] in rear

If there are casting nos. on the spindles and drums-post them.

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...uh...oh...

I didn't think that image would come through as a full page...

Standing by waiting to get yelled at...sheesh...

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[quote]Originally posted by deuceguy:
<strong>I'm hoping someone out there has seen this setup before. Clearly the spindles and backing plate are forties Ford (with Ford script shoes). The drums and hub are all one casting (12" x 1-3/4"). Any of the Ford/Merc drums I've seen for sale are just plain drums that mount on a separate hub. I can't seem to find anything like these on any of the websites selling vintage Ford parts. I've checked the bearing numbers and they seem to be Ford. The car was probably rodded in the late fifties so maybe this was some sort of weird swap popular at the time? Thanks
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There are two different early Ford spindles....37 to 41 (round) and 42 to 48 (square). I have both kinds. 40 (round) on my 40 Ford business coupe and 48's (square) on my 32 Roadster.

Round is the shape of the spindle meets the backing plate. Square is the shape of the spindle meets the backing plate.

Does your dust cover screw off?

Is your bolt pattern the same as a Ford pickup? 5 on 5.5 bolt circle.

Big Lincoln ( 40 - 41 or so ) had Bendix improved brakes.

Why is this needed?
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Sorry about the size of the pic..didn't know. I was rushing trying to post it this moring before I left for work. The thing is, I'm dealing with a rod someone built about the time I was born, so there are a lot of mystery parts. I am in the process of re-doing the brakes...(just picked the shoes for the rear by the way, just nailing down the seals now). As to the why, last time the car was on the road (10 yrs ago) the right front brake seized up on me going down the hiway, getting hot enough to burn the paint off the drum in a couple of spots. I haven't checked to see if they're warped yet, but I'm sure they will have to be turned at the very least, if not replaced.
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1940 Fords were the 1st year Ford with hydraulic brakes and a 5 on 5.5 bolt pattern. They remained basically the same until 48.

A very popular conversion in the mid to late 50's was the 54-56 F100 pickup brake conversion. You use the braking plates, hubs and drums from a 54-56 F100. They are 11" modern brakes and parts are still easily came by. New shoes, cylinders and drums are still being made for them new. The outer bearing is stock and you change the inner bearing and seal. I have the number if interested.

I am using this set up on my roadster.

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Thanks, this sounds like an interesting alternative and I may get back to you on this. For now I'll keep trying to ID this drum since I already invested in new wheel cylinders. Ironically I passed on a set of these drums at a swap a few years back, don't know what I was thinking. DOH!
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See if the drum has 01A 1105-A on it.

That is part# for 40 - 41 Ford passenger car drums. The hub and drums are all 1 piece and the dust cover screws out.

I saw on the other post that the rears were 57 Chevy. I thought so.

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Thanks Deuce Roadster. It took a while but under all the paint I found a faint # that appears to be 001A 1106, it doesn't match the number you gave me but it looks looks like it could be a Ford #. But I took the number you gave me and did a search on the net. I found an interesting document on joblotauto, about ID'ing 40's Ford drums " **Original 1940 drums were cast as a one piece, hub and drum assembly. These drums are quite rare and not referenced in this discussion "
So now another mystery is solved...just have to decide where to go from here. Thanks again.
BTW Here's the link if you're interested <a href="http://www.joblotauto.com/documents/brake_drum.doc" target="_blank">http://www.joblotauto.com/documents/brake_drum.doc</a>
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DeuceGuy........

check this out on Ebay

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Thanks for the heads up ... gonna keep my eye on this.
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