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Old 05-17-2011, 09:07 AM
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Can reducer be used as wax and grease remover?

I'm about to sand a used bumper cover. I have a can of medium reducer I'll probably never use for paint. Can I use the reducer to decontaminate the bumper of wax and grease?

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no too reducer

Reducer is to "hot" compared to wax and grease remover. If you use reducer it can make the paint start to soften and then when you sand it can cause what is know as sanding swelling. Then when your primer with reducter is used you will see your sand scratches or worse yet the primer will lift.
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Use a dish soap like Dawn or Joy with a scrub pad and
you'll never have an issue.
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Stude- That makes a lot of sense.

JC- Great advice. Cheaper and safer too.

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I really like the Dawn dish soap, I wash everything with it
before starting any repair.
I wash everything with it again after sanding my primer.
Dawn has gotten rid of any fish eye problems I ever had.
I hardly use wax and grease remover anymore,
mainly just for touch ups.
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Enamel reducer or Lacquer reducer? If Enamel reducer then you should be fine. Lacquer reducer can soften the paint.
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I'll add to the DAWN. imo its the best soap you can buy. it goes a long way and does the job. I use it before sanding anything, and even on me when I get real dirty.

On cars what I've started using alot is Comet! Alot of air brush guys use it with a brillo pad and water as their only means of scuffing before art. It cleans and is a mild abrasive! what more could you ask for. depending on the brillo pad it comes out looking like anywhere from 500-1000grit wetsanded. (gets into the hard spots better than wet paper)

back to subject. Just keep it simple. Stay away from anything other than w/g remover. paint aint cheap, so just use whats proven to not cause problems.
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Enamel reducer or Lacquer reducer? If Enamel reducer then you should be fine. Lacquer reducer can soften the paint.
It's Dupont Centari for enamel.

When I used to work autobody we would strip laquer painted hoods with rags soaked in laquer thinner. Soon the paint would start to liquify. You couldn't sand that paint because it would plug up the sandpaper right away. And the thinner was much better to work with than that lethal Aircraft Stripper gunk. My god that stuff was horrible.
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Used bumper covers will have lots of bug intestine residue on them;
for that reason I like Bowtie's Comet and Brillo suggestion.

In fact, I'd scrub with Comet and finish off with Dawn.
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In fact, I'd scrub with Comet and finish off with Dawn.
I do that as well. Works real good.
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when i was younger (my 20s), at the body shop i worked in, we always used laundry detergent
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