[Gr8 '48 bow tie]

#1 08-19-2006, 12:07 AM
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Can someone photoshop a pic for me, Please?

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Revised version is posted.

Al

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#2 08-19-2006, 12:33 AM
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Here is a pic from carnut. Can someone do what Gr8 '48 bow tie wants done to it.
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#3 Today, 12:30 AM
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If someone can photoshop a pic of a '48 Chevy Fleetline Aerosedan this is what I am looking for. I want to see what it looks like with the rear quarter windows filled in, with a large Chevy Bow Tie shaped port hole in the center. BTW paint the car red Please.

Thanks Al

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[grouch]

I don't do photoshop, but here's what I came up with in Gimp.

[home brew]

Great job grouch!!!!!!!!! You know that doesn't look to bad. Better than I thought it would. Perhaps if the bowtie was swapped end for end to give a similar slope to the B pillar it would look better.

[grouch]

Thanks home brew.

I tried resting it on the window sill so the trailing edge of the bowtie would sort of match the trailing edge of the window, but then back seat passengers could only see the road through it. Flipping the bowtie lets it match up with the lines of the window frame, but it might cause Chevy fanatics to riot.

Attached: a little minor tweaking to take off the hood ornament and some trim.

[home brew]

Grouch - Taking off the trim makes it look better. Good job. I think you are right about the Chevy bowtie guys freaking out. I think if Gr8 '48 bow tie is going to go the trouble of doing the back window he might as well go the mild custom route with shaving the emblems, trim and handles, frenching the lights and changing the grille as well.

[grouch]

How about a slightly warped chrome bowtie as the grille? Couldn't quite get the headlights right, either.

[home brew]

Looking good!!! I wish that Gr8 '48 bow tie would give some comments.

[grouch]

I couldn't resist it. Attached shows it sectioned about 3 - 4 inches and the trailing edge of the rear fender angled up slightly more, for a little more of a teardrop effect. (That should make the tail-gaters back off in the rain). Didn't re-radius the fenders, so it hunkers down over the tires a little more, now. Took out the center divider in the windshield; should be a 1-piece available somewhere.

[home brew]

I like that better than with the bowtie rear window. Looks like a real tail dragger now!! Getting into the full custom class.

[Gr8 '48 bow tie]

Great job guys, Thank you so much for the excellent renderings
of "Gr8 '48 bow tie". A lot of those ideas have been in my head for a while.

home brew and grouch, I do plan to shave the handles, hood emblem, remove the center windshield divider, French the head and tail lights, recess the license plate on the rear deck, lose the bumpers and install roll pans, install gas door to hide the ugly gas cap that is sticking out of the right rear fender. I want to change the grille but I never thought of the huge bow tie grille but I like it but perhaps make it neon. I had originally thought of maybe a '55 Chevy grille. If I could get my pics to upload, I could have a project photo album but computers and I don't Gee Haw very well. Again Thanks and keep the ideas flowing something might jump off the pages and grab my attention. I still like the Bow Tie rear quarter window idea. I have no idea where that came from, one day last week I was out working on her and it just popped into my brain and I just wanted to see how it would look. I never saw or heard of anyone having one and thought it was a novel idea.

Al

[grouch]

Originally Posted by Gr8 '48 bow tie

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If I could get my pics to upload, I could have a project photo album but computers and I don't Gee Haw very well.

What are the specifics of the problem? 1. What do you do, step by step? 2. What are the results, at each step?

(It's almost a sure bet you're using that MS garbage that has been foisted onto almost everyone by preinstallation, but even that shouldn't keep you from being able to get pictures uploaded. You most likely just need to learn the magic mouse wiggles it requires).

[46chevyfleetline]

Grouch; What program are you using to do the mods. Damm I'd like to learn how to do that. Have a few projects that I could really use that on. Great job. Hey 48 they used to take the center section out of a '49 merc grill and join them together and mount it in the 46 -48 Chevys. Used the '46 outer grill molding or justfilled the holes. Cheers!!!

[grouch]

Originally Posted by 46chevyfleetline

Grouch; What program are you using to do the mods. Damm I'd like to learn how to do that. Have a few projects that I could really use that on. Great job. Hey 48 they used to take the center section out of a '49 merc grill and join them together and mount it in the 46 -48 Chevys. Used the '46 outer grill molding or justfilled the holes. Cheers!!!

I use GIMP:

http://www.gimp.org
"GIMP is the GNU Image Manipulation Program. It is a freely distributed piece of software for such tasks as photo retouching, image composition and image authoring. It works on many operating systems, in many languages."

It doesn't seem to mind that I'm not an artist and it doesn't nag me for license fees.

Several people on here told me how to 'photochop', based on their use of Adobe Photoshop (that's about $600).

1. Open the original .jpg image and immediately "save as" and just change the filename extension to .xcf (Gimp's format). This way it will save all layers and extras that .jpg images don't have.

2. Duplicate the layer holding the "background", which is really the whole original image. This is so you can fall back to the original when you make a big mess of a copy. I rename this layer to "body copy".

3. I then use the "paths" tool, while zoomed in, to just kind of make a dotted line around such things as headlights, windows, trim, tires, one at a time.

4. As I get some non-body part outlined with a path, I use "Select -> from path", then "Edit -> copy", then I create a new layer and "Edit -> paste". That saves the outlined part for later. I then reselect the body copy layer, do "Select -> from path" again, but this time I use "Edit -> cut". That leaves a hole only in the body copy layer, but the new layer holds a copy of what was in that hole.

5. After only the body is left in the body copy layer, I can use any of the filters or color tools or paint tools to mess with the color.

6. When satisfied with the paint job, I choose which of the other layers to be visible, then use "File -> Save a copy" and save that copy as a .jpg. This way the .xcf still as all the layers, but the saved image is a standard .jpg that anyone can view.

It sounds more complicated than it is. It just takes a little fiddling with the program to learn where everything is located. The main thing to figure out is the use of layers and how to select parts of an image. (I use "Edit -> undo" a lot).

One of the goals of Gimp was to make a free workalike for Photoshop, so it's just about as complex as that thing. I like its menus a whole lot better than Photoshop's, even though I'm using an older version. The new one is supposed to have menus that are easier to get started with.

[46chevyfleetline]

Thanks Grouch. I appreciate you takin the time to explain the how to's, I'll give it a try, but first I need a stiff drink to unbogle the grey matter LOL. Thanks again Cheers !!!

[grouch]

Originally Posted by 46chevyfleetline

Thanks Grouch. I appreciate you takin the time to explain the how to's, I'll give it a try, but first I need a stiff drink to unbogle the grey matter LOL. Thanks again Cheers !!!

Welcome. There were several people on here who took the time to talk me through my first image 'paint job'. This is payback.

Some screenshots might be helpful. (I've been given grief over my plain, bland, unartsy desktop before; I don't mind. I like it simple). Gimp will look differently on your computer, but the same tools will be available.

gimp-screen-1.jpg -- This shows the car with the background cut out. You can see that I missed the top of a cooler or something showing on top of the hood ornament. A lot of stuff showing in this shot, but just like in a car, you don't have to know every button, switch and dial just to drive it. Note the "Layers, Channels, Paths, Undo" window on the left. The layer named "car" is selected, so any work done at this time would only affect that layer. That layer also shows an eye beside it and is therefore visible. (It's the only layer that was visible for this screenshot).

gimp-screen-2.jpg -- Here I have cut out the grille, headlights, bumper, hood emblem, hood ornament, front tire and the shadow. Notice the selected and visible layer is "body copy #1". I made a copy just to increase the brightness so I could see where the shadow met the lower edge of the body a little better. When doing the cutting, though, I had a layer named "body" selected, but not visible. That let me look at the one with the higher brightness, but work on the one with the proper look to it.

gimp-screen-3.jpg -- This is the layer with everything removed from the body. The layer is named, appropriately, "body". Notice the brightness and contrast are the same as the original picture. Only the copy was brightened to help me see the edges of shadows better while cutting shapes out.

It's a little like disassembling the car, only without grease. I ended up with 25 layers so I could mix and match things to get the various jpg images posted earlier. After getting the various parts pasted into their own layers, it was fairly easy, then, to try out different suggestions that home brew made or that popped into my fevered brain along the way.