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Old 05-26-2011, 08:32 AM
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Okay guys, I've read this thread over and over and still wonder....Can a guy use a single stage paint over a bc/cc for stone chips ?

I know I need to try it in an unseen spot but, has anyone got a firm answer ?

Also, would it matter what TYPE of paint is on the car ?
This is on a car painted years ago by an unknown painter.


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Okay guys, I've read this thread over and over and still wonder....Can a guy use a single stage paint over a bc/cc for stone chips ?

I know I need to try it in an unseen spot but, has anyone got a firm answer ?

Also, would it matter what TYPE of paint is on the car ?
This is on a car painted years ago by an unknown painter.


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If you buy one of those little bottles of touch up from your local Wally World or Auto Zone, that's what you will end up with. For example, my wife's metallic red Escape has BC/CC. The bottle of touch up is only a SS paint. Even my black F350 is BC/CC - and for that, it's only a "universal" black - so I just use some ready to spray 15+/- year old left over DuPont Centari. One problem with those little bottles of, say DupliColor, is that they are way too thick, leaving a lump. BUT, I would still first try an unseen spot to try it if you don't know the brand/type your unknown painter used.

One thing to use to apply it and something I should have mentioned in my first response - a slightly chewed on flat tooth pick. You break down the fiber a bit so it will absorb just enough paint for a small ding and the size is perfect for keeping the paint in the crater. Oh, don't forget the grease and wax remover before you use the touch up.

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Irelands child, Thanks for the info. I'm glad you mentioned the grease and wax remover too.

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First you will never have a chemical reaction using single stage to touch up stone chips, I should never say never but it would be a new one on me if you did.

Other issue is SS over a metallic base will show bad as the metallics set different and may show a mismatch. Solid colors, no issue.

Dewy, like said take some base, add anywhere from 5-10% clear for touch up, yes you would need more clear if spraying but touch up you want hiding more then anything.
With this mixture you might keep in a jar for down the road and as far as activation dump a little in a quart paint can lid and you don't need to be exact with the activator if 4:1 drop about a quarter of the area next to it or less as bases varies with reactivity with activator and mix with touch up brush, number 2 sword brush will do a perfect job if you apply a coat and let set 15 minutes and then a second coat.
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First you will never have a chemical reaction using single stage to touch up stone chips, I should never say never but it would be a new one on me if you did.

Other issue is SS over a metallic base will show bad as the metallics set different and may show a mismatch. Solid colors, no issue.

Dewy, like said take some base, add anywhere from 5-10% clear for touch up, yes you would need more clear if spraying but touch up you want hiding more then anything.
With this mixture you might keep in a jar for down the road and as far as activation dump a little in a quart paint can lid and you don't need to be exact with the activator if 4:1 drop about a quarter of the area next to it or less as bases varies with reactivity with activator and mix with touch up brush, number 2 sword brush will do a perfect job if you apply a coat and let set 15 minutes and then a second coat.
I keep a supply of paper bowl for small mixes. No chance of contamination. No mess and no clean up. Little brushes from Harbor Freight. Block sand with 2000 grit and a little buff job and Voila' . Nearly invisible.
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Great idea on the paper cups, never thought of that.
Our gel machines use a Dixie cup like what you would get a small sundae in from dairy queen.
We buy by cases and they are expensive but they work great.
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Thanks for the info Barry. Pretty much in line with what others were saying but always good to get the straight scoop from a pro.
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Great idea on the paper cups, never thought of that.
Our gel machines use a Dixie cup like what you would get a small sundae in from dairy queen.
We buy by cases and they are expensive but they work great.
I've always been concerned about whatever wax they use to seal the paper. No problems, I suppose?
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I've always been concerned about whatever wax they use to seal the paper. No problems, I suppose?
I don't use the wax sealed dixie cups. I bought the uncoated paper bowls from Walmart. They get soggy with water, but paint doesn't seem to bother them that much.
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SS touchup on BC/CC

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I admit I touch up road chips on my BC/CC cars with unreduced lacquer and an artists brush. It sands down and buffs out fine. You may have to apply it several times to 'fill in' the chip.

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McD***lds ketchup cups for mixing tiny amounts
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McD***lds ketchup cups for mixing tiny amounts
And they just follow you home ?
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Well, you double up so the kids don't squish the red goo allover,
sometimes the bottom one stays clean?
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Well, you double up so the kids don't squish the red goo allover,
sometimes the bottom one stays clean?
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I've always been concerned about whatever wax they use to seal the paper. No problems, I suppose?
I would guess this would be a legitimate concern if spraying but the cups we used are for batch testing and they look to be wax free.

I have made Small amounts of paint in them and sprayed many of times and never had an issue but that is not their real purpose.

Did have one that had a slow Leak about three years ago and that was a mess, what we do is say take a batch of clear we just made and activate the clear and fill the cup with 200 grams of material, set it in the gel timer, some items will take 60 minutes to 16 hours to gel and something thing like epoxy may take four days.

The cups are pretty sturdy and special order.
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