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Old 09-05-2007, 10:29 PM
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Can you believe another compressor question? Arent you sick of it :)

I'll save the "hey newbie here with compressor" question, and get right to it. I have between 500-600 dollars put towards some tools to get started on a car project. What Im thinking of doing is putting most of the money into my compressor for right now, and buying a couple of disposable HF tools (i.e. DA, Cutoff, In line Sander.) Now I have been researching this for the last month or so going between here and Autobody101 trying to gleam the most info I could before posting a redundant question. There was the disclaimer I'm looking at a few compressors and here they are.

Ingersoll Rand SS3L3
CFM at Max PSI: 10.3
CFM at 90 PSI: 11.3
Max. PSI: 135
Volts: 230
HP: 3
Air Tank Size (gal.): 60
around 570 bucks

Coleman
60 Gallon tank
Single Phase Oil lubricated, belt drive motor
vertical stationary
12.3 CFM @ 40 PSI
10.3 CFM @ 90 PSI
HP 7
Around 550 bucks

Puma
3 horsepower motor (rated)
Air delivery: 11.4 CFM @ 90 PSI; 12.9 CFM @ 40 PSI
Single stage, two cylinder.
Single phase
115 PSI max
230 volts
499 at HF

Now out of those three which one do you think would be the best investment. Once again a brief synopsis of what im doing. Body work, And painting (haven't picked up a gun yet). I know I will still need to get line and filters and water traps, but that can wait until i get closer to paint time, right?
Just curious which path you guys would go, and if you can think of any other items I will need right off the bat to get started.

Thanks
Shane

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Now out of those three which one do you think would be the best investment. Thanks
Shane
It's no contest, the Ingersoll is the best investment and by a wide margin. Of the other two the Puma IMO is the better of the two and can sometimes be found at Harbor Freight for a really good price (I have seen that unit for almost a $100 less than you listed). That looks like an exceptionally good price on that IR and for that kind of money I would not even consider the other two.
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Old 09-06-2007, 06:00 AM
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Its hard to beat a Ingorsal Rand. I have had mine for 25 years now.
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My vote would be for the Ingersoll Rand also. You could spend about $200 more and get a 2 stage though.

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I agree with Kampr, spend the extra money and get the two stage you will not regret it. The two stage will run quieter, cooler, last longer and most of all it will produce more air.
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I have a 60 gal vert tank Puma that I got from HF. Shipping was free, forget the price since I bought it 8 years ago but it's been great, no problems. Very pleased with it.
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If you are going to be using it several hours at a time, invest in the two stage.

That said, I have a single stage (smaller) that I have worked the hell out of and it has held up for 7 years with no problems...

If you are using it for a couple hours on Satruday and Sunday afternoons the single stage will work fine.
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Another vote here for a 2 stage. A single stage and air tools is not a good combination unless you like to take frequent breaks. Ingersoll Rand has a good 2 stage for $999.99. I bought one last year and it does very well in keeping up. Once you bite the bullet, save a few more bucks and go for the larger compressor, you will be glad you did and never look back. If you get a single stage, then realize you need a bigger compressor, then you have to worry about selling the one you have at a loss, then have to scrape up more money, and, and, and,
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I have already increased my budget for the compressor from 300 to 600. I was originally going to get one of the craftsman 2hp/33 gallon jobs. So I think for what i'm going to be using it for, hour of two after work , and sundays tinkering on a couple of old chevys I hope I can get by. I wish I could get the two stage, maybe in a couple of years. This site is a wealth of knowledge and will be bugging you guys for alot more info............and I promise I wont ask about the Dupicolor Paintshop stuff
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None of those will keep up with a DA air sander,
most DA's use around 15 cfm at 90 psi, the cheaper ones
use even more.
An in-line sander, maybe. but stay away from the Harbor Freight
in-line sander, I have one, it's useless.
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in-line sander, I have one, it's useless.

I have two and BOTH are useless, have been since the day I brought them home! If you plan to do more than one job you might want to consider the Hutchins Hustler for an in-line sander (about $250) or if you are just planing on one or two jobs either the Ingersoll Rand or CP at about $129 (CHICAGO pneumatic not CENTRAL pneumatic). Tools like the HF sander can be tempting if you are on a budget but some of them, like that sander for sure, even on sale at $19.99 are a TOTAL waste of money. Likewise the air tools from places like Advance Auto parts, etc appear to be the same as the ones from HF but for a LOT more money. HF has a few types of air tools that work pretty good unfortunately the sanders are not one of them as the in-line will not only do a VERY poor job it will literally fall apart in your hands in a very short time and the DAs will drain a large compressor dry in seconds.
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Where is the IR compressor avialable for $570
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I found it at Northern Tool. Picked it up today, hope to have it wired and running by sunday.
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Compressor mods

My Father resorted to buying a smaller compressor than I would have. To overcome the fact that it couldn't keep up, I installed a second hand LPG tank in the system for him. (Suitably emptied and checked of course). This gave it the ability to use larger tools for short periods. Having more coffee breaks to allow it to catch up again is not an issue for him.lol.
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