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can you remove raised whit letters from tires

Just had some new tires mounted on my wheels and forgot to tell the guy to put the blackwalls out. Since it was my mistake they will charge me for remounting and balancing. My question is...does the white in the raised letters go all the way into the tire or can the letters be sanded to black?

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The white letters is part of the underlayer of the outer sidewall layer. They cannot be removed without ruining the tire. Paint 'em with tire black or pay the fiddler to turn 'em around.

My old Ford F-150 pick up has what used to be raised white letter tires but I have scrubbed so many curbs that the letters are gone and they are now white walls.
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That blows.
Every time I've bought tires they always ask me which way I want them mounted. So it's actually their fault but, it's your problem now. If they hadn't balanced them they probably would'nt charge you.
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My old Ford F-150 pick up has what used to be raised white letter tires but I have scrubbed so many curbs that the letters are gone and they are now white walls.
They have curbs in TX?

You must be single Because any other man would have blamed the wife!
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Thanks for the replies...I figured that since the letters were actually higher than the sidewall they could taken down without getting into the white sidewall. Guess I'll either pay or black them
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I would just ask them to split the difference on recounting since it was an honest mistake.

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Just had some new tires mounted on my wheels and forgot to tell the guy to put the blackwalls out. Since it was my mistake they will charge me for remounting and balancing. My question is...does the white in the raised letters go all the way into the tire or can the letters be sanded to black?
I alway's ask the person when i use to mount and balance tires which way they wanted them before i started, they should have ask you anyway before they did it. JMO


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Thanks for the replies...I figured that since the letters were actually higher than the sidewall they could taken down without getting into the white sidewall.
White all the way to the sidewall and then the entire sidewall will turn white. This is how some folks actually create traditional looking whitewalls - they grind down the lettering and then the black surface of the sidewall and it is white underneath.

Bottom line - it's good you asked the question before you started grinding. The bad news...you still have to either remount or paint (which WILL scuff off and need repainting from time to time).
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Why would someone buy raised white letter tires and mount them on the inside? That is the reasoning of the tire tech that mounted the tires in the first place. It pays to know what you want before you go shopping. When I buy tires, I don't wait to be asked what I want, I tell them so I know we're on the same page and avoid a problem like yours. Can't blame the tire tech but you can blame the salesman who dropped the ball on this one for making an "ASSumtion". That's just bad PR man, if a customer isn't happy when they leave, I wouldn't expect to ever see them again for any repeat business and that's true with ANY sales department.

Want to hear a good one? I took a car in one time for 4 new tires, balanced, and new valve stems and when I got the car back I found they had put some short stem valves with the chrome looking covers on them on the rims UNDER the hub caps and charged me 6 bucks for each one. I was so PO'd my wife had to drag me out of the building to keep from strangling the salesman.

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Why would someone buy raised white letter tires and mount them on the inside?
I've often had to do this due to "availability" issues. At times white raised letters have been the only option available for the particular size and type of tire I wanted. Seems this was just an oversight between the owner/mounter...and has happened to most all of us at one time or another. One of them there "learning opportunities".
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Sounds like a suicide wish to me to want to sand or grind on a tire sidewall.
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Sounds like a suicide wish to me to want to sand or grind on a tire sidewall.
Only begins to raise safety issues if you go all the way through the "white" and get back into black. Then you might be treading on thin ice. Lots of whitewalls get scuffed through the white and start showing black. If you are in good solid white, you have exactly the amount of sidewall left as a normal, factory whitewall tire.

A couple videos showing the process. You'll see many more videos if you click on any one of these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omEAP...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN2y0...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXm0ZTxRrTU
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Natural rubber (before the addition of carbon black) is white. Tire manufacturers use carbon black and other dyes to turn the tire rubber black. Use leather dye, or grout dye and the letters will never again turn white, or even a dingy gray.
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