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Old 05-27-2013, 12:37 PM
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candies and clears

i want to do some flames,,, it will be on a cured paint, ppg.

I'm looking at hok, or xotic...now the question, how long can the art sit,(which is color and candies) before i need to either clear it, or use a clear base like ppg 500, intercoat clear?

does ppg, have any "candies" or dyes to add to clear or clear base?

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Tcp global has a good line of candies..use an intercoat clear to mix them and since it can be time consuming for all the taping and retaping involved in custom painting it may be a day or so before you are ready to clear..works out just fine tho..

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what about the opaque colors, (the base) you reccommend hok, or just use a ppg base coat color, and the candy concentrate in a binder or intercoat over that?
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Use your favorite whatever for the base..Base colors usually are white or black but can be something else as well..The recipe for the classic candy apple red in laquer that we used 50 years ago was solid red laquer then the candy was more red reduced with clear and then clear over that for the finish..Several coats and hand rubbed between coats..Lots of work to do that. We still follow the basic routine..apply the base then the candy or metallic then tape off for graphics shoot those and then the clear coats..

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First of all, true candies are done by using a transparent mid coat over top of a color coat. Many or even any color can be used as a base color. If the base color has been clear coated and cured, I would recommend that it be sanded with with 600 grit or 800 grit wet paper, lay out your graphics, flames or whatever you choose, mask the area around your graphic and then apply candy color. Apply enough coats to get your desired effect.

A let down panel would also be recommended. This done by by painting a separate panel with your ground color, then apply one coat of your candy color over the entire panel, allow it to flash, mask of about 1/4 of the panel, apply another coat of candy over the remaining panel, allow it to flash, mask off another section, apply more candy, flash, mask, apply more candy, flash, unmask and clear the entire panel. This will give you a good idea as to how many coats of candy you need to get your desired effect.

Apply the same same number of coats of candy on your graphics and clear all the panels that have graphics on them. You can apply as many coats of clear as you feel you need...(if your going to color sand and polish, I would recommend at least 4 coats of clear).

PPG does have dies that can be added to DBC500, for example, the part number for a radiance blue is DMX216. Talk to your PPG jobber, they have formulas for adding this product to DBC500 so you won't need to guess as to how much you need to get the effect your after.

On a side note, I would not recommend adding a dye to a top coat, catalyzed clear, it's expensive, it will give you excessive paint build and makes the entire project if God forbid you ever need to do a repair much more difficult.

Hope this helps.

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