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Cant get sterter turn over I know its electrical...

Ok so I have a 454 in my 64 Chevy Impala well I am now using an HEI distributor but my problem lies with the starter. Ok so I only need the switched wire coming for the ign switch to the switched post on the starter solenoid? If that is correct than i have bugs. I traced the wire which is purple and its from the ign switch to the neutral switch then to the bulkhead and into the engine compartment then to the starter, well i am getting nothing had the starter checked and it works perfectly so I am at a loss. Could it be a bad ign switch? when i first got the car years ago the guy had the plug that goes into the neutral safety which is the purple wire unplugged and had a piece of wire bypassing. It was working fine when i had a 327 motor and a points dist in there but still had the plug for the neutral safety switch bypassed with a wire. Any help will be ver much appreciated!

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I had a 62...I had a problem in the bulkhead, where it goes through the firewall.....There are quite small prongs in there that get weak or corroded. I cleaned them a couple of times, but ultimately ended up putting in a separate push button switch for the starter circuit.
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When you say you traced the wire, do you mean the physical wire or electrically traced ?

The quickest method to find what is bad is to test for voltage at the neutral switch. With the ignition switch in the start position, you should have voltage on one side of that plug that is jumped. If that is what you find, then problem lies in the wire that goes from there to the starter.
If no voltage at all, it very well could the the ignition switch.

Jumping that safety switch out will bite you real bad so correct that along the way.

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I traced the "switched wire" the wire hooked to the post thats switched for the solenoid and its the wire that goes to the ignition, I have not traced the electricity no.When its wired up for points it works fine? why?

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Try a jumper wire from the starter to the column side of the neutral safety switch (bypassing the old jumper, neutral switch and the bulkhead fittings etc...) if it works, switch it from the column side of the neutral safety switch to the other side of the neutral safety switch, if it works.... try from the engine bay side of the pass thru wiring harness etc......
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Thank you for your eplies I will give it a go this weekend thanks agian and hopefully its an easy fix either way.
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It could be the key switch.. They do go bad.. You could bypass all that and just run a push button.. Use at least #12 stranded wire if you do.. No relays needed..
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Jumping that safety switch out will bite you real bad so correct that along the way.
Had mine jumped for years.
What do I need to worry about?
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The netural safety switch is one of the first things I get ride of...
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Had mine jumped for years.
What do I need to worry about?

Do not worry it is just a part the manufacturer put in your car so that they could charge you more and make you pay to fix it when it fails.

By all means leave it as it is, hope you never find out why that is a part of the circuit.

Notice I did not answer your question ..................... wonder why?
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I was expecting some horror stories of stooges starting car in gear and going over cliff or something.
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I was expecting some horror stories of stooges starting car in gear and going over cliff or something.

There is a reason why they call them "safety" switches, Curly.......Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk......
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hoping to make time this weekend to look at it
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GM's weak ignition circuit

I have a 65 Olds that had annoying starting problems. Solved them by taking advice found at Mad Electrical, see their tech pages at:
http://www.madelectrical.com/electrical-tech.shtml
I rewired my starter using his remote starter relay, and added additional ground wires between engine and body, and my problems went away.
You can't have too many ground wires. :-)
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Tried running a jumper wire from the switched post on the solenoid to both side of the neutral safety plug and got nothing... going to price a ign switch and if that doesnt probably going to have to re-wire the starter circuit
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