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Old 04-06-2006, 06:27 AM
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Can't paint your own car after 2007??

Just wondering if anyone else has seen this, it sounds like the EPA is at it again

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CIC attendees get lowdown on EPA refinish regs

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Environmental Protection Agency officials are continuing their fact-finding mission this week as they march toward new regulations aimed at cutting emissions from the refinish process in collision repair facilities.

EPA Environmental Protection Specialist Kim Teal outlined to Collision Industry Conference (CIC) attendees her agency’s process for developing the new rules impacting the refinish market. “The rule will impact everyone, no matter how much you use,” Teal told the audience at the CIC meeting Tuesday in Mandalay Bay.

Teal and her colleagues have been busy visiting shops and gathering data as they prepare to write a proposed rule by 2007. Full implementation of the rule is targeted for August 2011.

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Old 04-06-2006, 07:36 AM
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Thanks for the heads up. This could sure change the playing field for back yard hot rodders. I'm wondering if they're intending to take every can of paint off the shelves of Wal Mart and and Tractor Supply. There's also some nasty stuff used in woodworking shops all around the country. This might be a bigger can of worms than the EPA thinks. It will also be interesting to see what position SEMA and reps of the hot rod industry take on the plan.
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Old 04-06-2006, 09:17 AM
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We need to stop this madness! The EPA will have us where we can't even fart without getting in trouble!
All this BULL* while the rain-forest is still getting cut down, and big factories
are polluting just as much as ever.


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The whole idea is to get rid of the little guy,, not the real polluters
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The EPA has been threatening this kind of crap for years. It's not ever going to happen.
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It may not happen, but you don't want to wait until it is too late. They did it to R-12 freon, if you didn't stock pile you are screwed. Not something you can do with paint, long term stock pile for later use.
I think one day you will see them want to end oil sales to private individuals.
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Corporate Shenanigans!!

See here is the deal..the Dealer and Corporate shops charge the customer any where up to about 80-90 dollars an hour for shop time and the paint materials in the corporate world are charged out at 400 dollars a gallon with bondo and other materials charged accordingly.

The independent shop down the street charges his time considerably less and buys his materials from independent dealers for considerably less resulting in a savings to the consumer. The dealer and corporate shops do not like this at all so they are the ones pushing for some rules to put the independents out of business..

This nothing more that what we call "rent seeking" on the part of the major players in the auto repair industry..

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You know they are already starting this BS program,

Try to be under 18 & buy a spray bomb or try to but more than one cold medicine package !!

They have all that stuff be hind the counter.
{Yes that over the counter remedy}

Better hope crack/meth heads dont figure out a way to use soda, beer or beef & chicken in the recipe then well have to get a prescription or rations to eat hot dogs

Gee wonder why it takes six hundred & elventy years & a hundred gazzillion dollars for the Govt. to get something done

I say its a 50 - 50 chance of happening

more Governmental intrusion thats what we need.

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The whole idea is to get rid of the little guy,, not the real polluters
Republicans favor big business, agreed?
Vote in a democrat.
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Republicans favor big business, agreed?
Vote in a democrat.
This has nothing to do with which party is in control. If memory serves it's the democrats who embrace the tree huggers who are ultimately behind this anyway.

If you want to talk politics - take it to the lounge off topic section.
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See here is the deal..

The dealer and corporate shops do not like this at all so they are the ones pushing for some rules to put the independents out of business..


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that is the deal. independents includes us.
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This has nothing to do with which party is in control. If memory serves it's the democrats who embrace the tree huggers who are ultimately behind this anyway.

If you want to talk politics - take it to the lounge off topic section.
Yeah but Rep. are for big industry and capitalism, which seems to be the problem with this country right now.

Politics aside, we should not wait till it's too late to stop this BS.
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People....knock off the political differences with the Democrats vs. Republicans. That fight gets a thread nowhere but the dump.

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The whole idea is to get rid of the little guy,, not the real polluters
I'm with Bill on this. Get rid of the little guy business that is cutting into the larger guys pocket. After that is done then the larger guy can up the prices to either illegally sell to the little guy or the price of getting a car done will go sky high. It's not to protect the enviroment, it's all about money.

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Feedback, thus far, has helped the EPA identify a frustrated base of shop owners
It's the bigger shop owners that want the guy around the corner snuffed out. To hell with someone else trying to put food on the table, the bigger guys want it all.
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more Governmental intrusion thats what we need.

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That's exactly what I thought when I read this, LOL


sorry for the long copy and past job, my intent was only to help anyone on dial-up from having to get to it with all the pics having to load
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I should be done by then, but wait ! there is more. What about all those folks out there painting the lawn furniture, they are really bad, cheep paint and no spray booths, very ugly and most likely will totally eliminate the o zone
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