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Old 01-26-2009, 05:55 PM
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the car hauler project

I figured I would post the plan for my dads next project. He got a 74 F-350 that has a good running 400 4spd. The running gear is in good shape but the body is full of rust. We also have the cab and front clip off a 59 F-600. That body is in good shape. We plan to swap the cab onto the 74 chassis. We then plan to stretch the frame and build a car hauler bed for it. Here is the 59 that we got the cab off of

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Why not use the 59 frame?..Its already stretched.......The 74 body looks in better shape.
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The F350 is a bit light for use as a car hauler if you are thinking of using it as a rollback configuration. Most F350s are used as wreckers but rollbacks are generally in the F450. The axle rating for the F350 is in the 5,000 lb range which when you determine the net carrying capacity left over after subtracting the weight of the F350 leaves you with enough to carry a small import.

You would be better off using the 59 cab and chassis. Would be much simpler to convert.

Good luck and keep us up to date on your progress.
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I agree with Houston. The older truck may also have a 2 speed rear end which could come in handy.Just put the newer drive train in the old truck and you will save a lot of work. Also you will end up with a better rig. IMHO.
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Old 01-27-2009, 07:05 AM
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the 59 truck was cut up. We just got to keep the body. The frame was real rusty. The 59 cab is in much better shape. It only has a little rust in it. the 74 body is extremely rusty it just has a decent paint job and that pic was took with a cheap camera that makes things look better than they are. We are going to build a ramp style bed for it, probaly 12ft flat and 4ft tail. My dad has had a lot of 1 ton car haulers over the years and they have all worked good
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Sounds like an accident waiting to happen through negligence. Next time I am driving through Alabama and see something like what you are describing I will give it a wide berth.

People who throw vehicles together with little regard to their end use and put unsafe vehicles on the road are the reason more restrictive laws are being put up all the time. They are the ones who make it harder on the rest of us to enjoy this activity.

Maybe old fords has not given us all the information regarding the chassis build but from what he has described so far they are building a carrier that does not have the capacity for its intended purpose.

Old ford - I suggest you and your pop investigate the difference between gross capacity of a chassis/axles and net capacity.
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Sounds like an accident waiting to happen through negligence. Next time I am driving through Alabama and see something like what you are describing I will give it a wide berth.

People who throw vehicles together with little regard to their end use and put unsafe vehicles on the road are the reason more restrictive laws are being put up all the time. They are the ones who make it harder on the rest of us to enjoy this activity.

Maybe old fords has not given us all the information regarding the chassis build but from what he has described so far they are building a carrier that does not have the capacity for its intended purpose.

Old ford - I suggest you and your pop investigate the difference between gross capacity of a chassis/axles and net capacity.
you are aware that there were thousands of rocket launcher car hauler chassis built on chevy and ford one ton chassis. They would run one vehicle up over the cab and tow one. We have hauled an F-5 on a one ton before. In the early 80's most rollbacks were built one one ton chassis so were many of the old race car haulers. If I were going to use this project everyday to run a business I could see were you are coming from but for a weekend hauler that won't haul more than a midsize car such as a maverick there is no need for it.
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I trully doubt that one ton trucks are being used as the industry standard for that purpose. A one ton truck is rated to carry just that one ton which is 2,000 pounds. Your example of a maverick illustrates the problem as the weight for that car is between 2,600 and 3,000 pounds depending on engine selection. You have already overloaded your one ton truck. Add on top of that the extra weight of the steel to build your ramp/rack/bed/rocket launcher and you are severely under rated for the load you plan to carry.

Not to beat a dead horse but that dog won't hunt at least not safely.
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The 1/2, 3/4 and 1 ton ratings were from the 30's I believe. My dads F-350 weighs around 6800lb with driver a winch and other junk. The gross weight is 10,000lb. Thats means it can legally haul 3200 lbs. It will haul 2 tons with ease. we might put a tandem under it but I doubt it. My dad has onwed about 5 1 ton car haulers over his life with no problems. Many race car haulers in the 70's were based off a 1 ton. I know a bigger truck would be better but this configuration will work fine. The 79 F-350 car hauler works good and has hauled probaly 100 cars and trucks. From a yugo to a 49 F-5
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As long as you stay in the gvwr you should be ok. You might be able to find a front soldid axle from something like a F-450(If they used them I know chevy used them on their service type trucks up into the 90s) Add daul wheels and tires a little shorter so that they only touch when your loaded.
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You could use the hood off the red one and make you a little rpu.



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we have hauled around 6000lbs on a one ton and it did not squat bad. This project is basically making 2 trucks that would have been scrapped into one good useable truck. Here is the style bed I would like to get
http://americandreamcars.com/1972chevycarhauler0406.htm
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The 1/2, 3/4 and 1 ton ratings were from the 30's I believe. My dads F-350 weighs around 6800lb with driver a winch and other junk. The gross weight is 10,000lb. Thats means it can legally haul 3200 lbs. It will haul 2 tons with ease. we might put a tandem under it but I doubt it. My dad has onwed about 5 1 ton car haulers over his life with no problems. Many race car haulers in the 70's were based off a 1 ton. I know a bigger truck would be better but this configuration will work fine. The 79 F-350 car hauler works good and has hauled probaly 100 cars and trucks. From a yugo to a 49 F-5
I totally agree.I am sure it is not the industry standard but if done properly it is very safe.I have a 1994 GMC Sonoma and I don't know what it is rated at but I have safely and easily hauled 2400 Lbs.It is all in how well the truck is maintained and how it is loaded.Good luck with your project.
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oooorrrrr..

orrrr you could make it a tow vehicle. a 5th wheel hauler? That's my plans for my 58 dually.

Bought a newer frame to get the disc brakes and power steering. I'll be working on that this summer or fall.

You can make a dually look pretty good!
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I totally agree.I am sure it is not the industry standard but if done properly it is very safe.I have a 1994 GMC Sonoma and I don't know what it is rated at but I have safely and easily hauled 2400 Lbs.It is all in how well the truck is maintained and how it is loaded.Good luck with your project.

A bit off topic....

2400 lbs on a Sonoma? My truck is a bigger pile-o-crap than I thought. I've got a '97 Silverado 2wd (crosses the scales at 5300lbs without me in it) that I had to used to haul 50 bundles of shingles on this last fall. 75lbs per bundle, and 25 bundles per trip equals 1875 lbs. I lowered my truck 5 inches in the rear and had the axle riding on the bumpstops. Both trips. I was afraid I'd break the frame. After the way mine handled 1875 lbs, I'm guessing you're slightly kidding about this being safely and easily done on that Sonoma.



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orrrr you could make it a tow vehicle. a 5th wheel hauler? That's my plans for my 58 dually.

Bought a newer frame to get the disc brakes and power steering. I'll be working on that this summer or fall.

You can make a dually look pretty good!
that was one of the original plans, but we figured a car hauler would be more useful
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