[mrdreex]

Hello all. I have read the wiki on how to get a title from your state (TX), and am hoping someone may know this. I have a 79 Nova that I bought with no title, but was given a bill of sale. I don't know how long the 'regular' process is to getting a car title, but was curious on the other method mentioned in the article. It mentioned that some rodding magazines offer titles for sale? I was curious if anyone knew which magazine(s) it is referring to, if magazines at all. I have googled, but with no luck. Any help is appreciated.

[302 Z28]

Most titles offered for sale are from the New York state, and are for vehicles older than 1972. New York state does not title vehicles older than 1972. Most if not all states consider this practice illegal. Your only option is to go through your local Texas DMV office.

Vince

[Centerline]

Originally Posted by 302 Z28

..............Most if not all states consider this practice illegal. .............

That's an understatement. It's a FELONY!!!

[mrdreex]

Originally Posted by 302 Z28

Most titles offered for sale are from the New York state, and are for vehicles older than 1972. New York state does not title vehicles older than 1972. Most if not all states consider this practice illegal. Your only option is to go through your local Texas DMV office.

Vince

I figured that this was considered somewhat illicit, but thought it was worth asking. Thanks for the info.

[mrdreex]

Originally Posted by Centerline

That's an understatement. It's a FELONY!!!

I don't intend on doing anything illegal. The article didn't know either, so I figured it was worth asking. Do you know how long the process usually takes to get a title through the state?

[joe_padavano]

Originally Posted by Centerline

That's an understatement. It's a FELONY!!!

That's not an understatement, it's an INCORRECT statement. Several states do not issue titles to older cars. This is COMPLETELY legal. When I was growing up in Massachusetts, that state did not issue titles for cars more than 10 years old. There are a number of completely legal title service companies that will do this for you. Most other states are aware of this and will honor the paperwork. If a few states choose not to recognize this, that's a state problem and not a felony. Attempting to secure a title using this method to commit fraud (such as using it to title a stolen car) is ABSOLUTELY a crime, but the infraction is not the act of getting a title, it's the act of fraud.

[MAUSS]

When I moved from New York to Alabama in 1984, the DMV there took away the title for my 1965 Corvair and just issued me a registration card, the stub of which served as the proof of ownership. I think Alabama had done away with titles for vehicles built prior to 1973.

[kgus]

I am willing to bet the regular process is not that bad. In Mass I needed to go to the town hall to get a copy of the computer record for the excise tax. All they were doing was chasing possible sales tax revenue and late fees.

The other option was take it to a cop an have him fill out a form that it was what I said it was, not really that bad

[Centerline]

Originally Posted by joe_padavano

That's not an understatement, it's an INCORRECT statement. Several states do not issue titles to older cars. This is COMPLETELY legal. When I was growing up in Massachusetts, that state did not issue titles for cars more than 10 years old. There are a number of completely legal title service companies that will do this for you. Most other states are aware of this and will honor the paperwork. If a few states choose not to recognize this, that's a state problem and not a felony. Attempting to secure a title using this method to commit fraud (such as using it to title a stolen car) is ABSOLUTELY a crime, but the infraction is not the act of getting a title, it's the act of fraud.

I don't know where you studied law but feel free to represent a fraudulent title to your state's DMV and see how quick you wind up behind bars. Purchasing a title that belongs to another vehicle and then trying to register your car FRAUD, period end of story. That's what he asked about, not going through one of those shyster title companies. AND, most states won't allow titles obtained through them anymore because they consider it skirting the law. You pay your money and take your chances with one of those companies.

Bottom line is that EVERY STATE has procedures to title cars where the title has been lost or never existed. Following those procedures is the only foolproof way to do it.

[matt167]

In Ny registrations pre '72 come very easy ( titles '73 and up ).. few papers to sign and fill out by both original owner and buyer... newer than '72, getting a title is a hassle

[bluesman2333]

In Arizona and Nevada is is pretty easy to get a title to a car you currently do not have a title to.

You file an application with the DMV or MVD telling them that you are liening the vehicle for storage fees. You state you do not know who the previous owner is and it has been on your property for more that 60 days. The department will send a registered letter to the previous registered owner stating that the car is going up for lien sale. You then get the brandy new title in about a month.

I might have some of the facts slightly wrong, but this is the gist of the steps to get the title. In other states, YMMV.

[mrdreex]

Originally Posted by Centerline

I don't know where you studied law but feel free to represent a fraudulent title to your state's DMV and see how quick you wind up behind bars. Purchasing a title that belongs to another vehicle and then trying to register your car FRAUD, period end of story. That's what he asked about, not going through one of those shyster title companies. AND, most states won't allow titles obtained through them anymore because they consider it skirting the law. You pay your money and take your chances with one of those companies.

Bottom line is that EVERY STATE has procedures to title cars where the title has been lost or never existed. Following those procedures is the only foolproof way to do it.

I absolutely don't mind doing it the legal way either, but I was curious as to why whoever mentioned that 'buying' a title in the wiki would mention that as an option, and obviously since it's the 'easy way out', it led me to believe that obtaining a title for an otherwise untitled vehicle could be a lengthy process. Thanks for all the info though.

[lets cut it up]

I just finished getting a the title to a 55 chevy truck..IT TOOK TWO YEARS the states way. I did a 57 chevy using the titling company way and it was all done in less than two weeks. Tim

[Centerline]

Originally Posted by lets cut it up

I just finished getting a the title to a 55 chevy truck..IT TOOK TWO YEARS the states way. I did a 57 chevy using the titling company way and it was all done in less than two weeks. Tim

There's nothing wrong with doing it that way, as long as your state acepts them. Some, like Ohio for instance, don't. Sometimes its just a crap shoot.

I'm interested in why it took two years to get a title for your truck though. .

[mrdreex]

Originally Posted by Centerline

There's nothing wrong with doing it that way, as long as your state acepts them. Some, like Ohio for instance, don't. Sometimes its just a crap shoot.

I'm interested in why it took two years to get a title for your truck though. .

I believe they may have something like TX does, where they issue you a Bonded Title, and after the 'waiting time', they will issue you a real title. Reason being a waiting time would be incase someone else claimed that title during the 'waiting' time would indicate going to court to settle the title dispute. I just don't know if you're able to get Inspected/Registered with a bonded title, and how long it takes to get one.